(Bike) Speeders on the fast-track to court

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    Archibald Guest

    Speeders on the fast-track to court

    Police are targeting the bikers who treat Yorkshire roads like a
    speedway track

    Martin Wainwright
    Thursday May 27, 2004
    The Guardian
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,2763,1225412,00.html

    Traffic moves slowly in the north of England's national parks,
    especially over bank holidays, but there is one exception which
    emergency services are dreading in the countdown to the weekend.

    An astonished traffic policeman logged an example a month ago on the
    caravan-clogged A65 below Ingleborough Fell - a high-powered motorbike
    screamed past at 134mph.

    "That isn't the record for North Yorkshire either," says Superintendent
    Martin Deacon, who is leading the region's biggest drive against
    so-called extreme speeders.

    "We've had enough. We're the ones who have to pick up the pieces -
    literally. The bodies and body parts left on the road."

    Last year 28 bikers and pillion passengers were killed on the tempting
    switchbacks of England's largest county - 30% of traffic fatalities
    compared with the national figure of 2%. More than 180 other riders were
    injured. This year has seen nine deaths. Over Easter weekend alone there
    was one fatality, three serious injuries and six other serious motorbike
    accidents.

    In advance of the bank holiday the North Yorkshire force - which has a
    longstanding name for biker-friendly safety policies - is launching its
    answer: a crackdown aimed at driving extreme speeders off the beautiful
    roads. Cars as well as high-powered motorbikes have been caught in a
    preliminary trial of extra patrols in the Dales and moors, which has
    just seen the first offenders in court.

    Chris Naylor, 29, from Leeds, and Karen Illingworth, a mother of three
    from Harrogate, were fast-tracked to Skipton magistrates for an
    extreme-speeders' hearing. More than 100 other cases are already listed
    to follow. Mr Naylor was caught speeding at 103mph on the Settle bypass,
    and Mrs Illingworth was caught driving at 91mph on the accident-prone
    A59 at Blubberhouses Moor.

    The crackdown involves more than hefty fines, licence penalty points and
    large insurance premiums. Supt Deacon is keen to use more serious
    charges on the worst offenders. "If the speed and circumstances warrant
    it, we'll be making a case for dangerous driving to the Crown
    Prosecution Service," he says. "That's an imprisonable offence which
    should make extreme speeders think.

    "We've had a thorough look at our traditional emphasis on road safety
    education. But do you really have to educate someone not to go at over
    100mph?"

    The force is working with North Yorkshire county council on new road
    safety engineering, such as changes to camber on roads whose bends and
    changing levels draw bikers from all over Britain. Councillor Peter
    Sowray, the county executive's member for environmental services, says:
    "We've some of the most picturesque roads in the country, and we know
    that many bikers enjoy the challenge they offer their riding skills. But
    a minority are literally using public roads as race tracks - a race
    track they share with pedestrians, horses, tractors, buses and tens of
    thousands of cars."

    Three bikes were ordered off the road last weekend for using illegal
    racing exhausts. Inspector Chris Charlton, a biker himself, said: "Can
    anyone tell me what the point is of enhancing the performance of a
    machine that can already travel at twice the maximum speed limit?"

    The crackdown is raising some hackles, but mostly in the twilit world
    which advertises details of undercover North Yorkshire police teams on
    the internet.

    But most bikers' clubs share the growing concern at the death rate on
    the region's roads, with so many of their own members among the victims.
    Dave Gwynne, a former racing driver who runs the Bikers Cafe at
    Garforth, off the A1M at Leeds, said the problem had to be recognised.
    He said: "Some are young riders who tragically think they're
    bulletproof. But you've got the older ones too, who can afford to treat
    themselves to a new bike for around £5,500 to £8,000, or say £12,000 for
    the top range like Ducati. They may not have been on a bike for some
    years, and those are very powerful.

    "It's not easy to describe the draw of biking ... But then one day
    people don't turn up here as usual for spares, and you realise: they're
    not around any more."

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    It's the dozy motorists who can't be bothered to indicate and look into
    their mirrors who should be targeted by the police along with the
    "middle lane morons".

    Archie
     
    Archibald, May 27, 2004
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    Peter Hucker Guest

    Accidents are a result of carelessness. Speed only determines the severity of the injuries should someone **** up.


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    timr Guest

    Excuse me, but have you ever ridden a motorbike?
     
    timr, May 28, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    I have. What do I win?


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    AndrewR, May 29, 2004
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    Simon Guest


    As you survived, the skills to be a better car driver!
     
    Simon, May 29, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    As I'm still riding a bike (although obviously not while typing this) it's a
    bit premature to say I've survived.

    Yes, I've survived so far, but that's no reason to suppose that I'll keep on
    doing it. After all, I've got a perfect track record of not dying of old
    age, but if I live long enough then that's sure to kill me.

    As soon as I'm dead I'll post here and let you know how I died and then we
    can all judge whether I survived riding a bike or not.

    Please hold ...


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    AndrewR, May 29, 2004
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    Porl Guest

    It probably will with that negative attitude. Go to your room.
     
    Porl, May 29, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    If I trip on the stairs, fracture my skull and die on my way to my room
    you're going to feel really bad, you know.

    In fact I think I will do that. I can only hope that my sudden death will
    inspire the government to finally bring in the long overdue legislation
    stopping people taking the stairs two, or even three, at a time and to
    ensure that people only tackle stairs that have had an annual inspection to
    ensure that they're safe.

    I also favour compulsory use of grippy footwear and BSI approved head
    protection whilst stair climbing and it goes without saying that loud
    carpets will be touted as the number 1 social menace of our time.


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    AndrewR, May 29, 2004
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    Nidge Guest

    snip
    y................bikers do speed to stupid levels and

    snip

    I'd be greatly astonished if you weren't a troll.
    Go forth and multiply.

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    Nidge, May 29, 2004
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    Dave Guest


    Only 7% of accidents are caused by excess speed:

    http://www.abd.org.uk/one_third.htm
     
    Dave, Jun 11, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    Champ, Jun 11, 2004
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  12. This one is even better.
    Impairment — alcohol 222 3.8%

    3.8% of accidents have alcohol as a causal factor.
    96.2% of accidents involve sober drivers.

    The last big 'killer' was dink driving, which was bollocks. The latest
    one is speed, which is bollocks.

    The top 4 causal factors are:
    Failure to judge other persons path or speed
    Behaviour - careless/thoughtless/reckless
    Inattention
    Looked but did not see

    or in other words: Bad Driving.

    More training and 5 year retests would go a long way to reducung road
    casualties, creating training jobs, reducing congestion, increasing
    revenue, creating demand for public transport and, best of all,
    increasing the value of professional, trained and certified drivers.

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    Colonel Tupperware, Jun 11, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    If they crank up the retirement age to 82, pensioners as a species will
    practically disappear.
     
    platypus, Jun 11, 2004
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    gomez Guest

    I doubt it, depending on your definition of standard of driving.
     
    gomez, Jun 12, 2004
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    gomez Guest

    Your faith in the continued stability of the pensions industry is
    touching.
     
    gomez, Jun 12, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    How about raising the retirement age to 85, as an initial step. That will
    immediately improve the pensions cash-flow, with more people working and
    less people claiming pensions. Then, we could gradually reduce it, say by
    one year per year.
     
    Verdigris, Jun 13, 2004
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