I'm just finishing off a promo DVD for Almax that shows Alex (from Almax) and Zanx (the guy who was responsible for getting circular key locks removed from sale by most manufacturers when he proved they can be opening with a felt tip pen) cropping a number of different chains. If you're interested, the results were: Abus Granite - 25 seconds Abus Granite City X-Plus - 17 seconds Datatool Python - 33 seconds English Chain Superlink - 16 seconds Kryptonite Forgetaboutit - 29 seconds Oxford Monster - 14 seconds Squire MC4 - 63 seconds All the chains are Sold Secure Gold, Thatcham Approved or both, and are supposed to be able to survive attack by bolt croppers for at least 5 minutes. It looks like someone in the testing world isn't doing their job... As for the Almax chains, the Series IV was just scratched, even with two men both jumping on the croppers, and the Series III trashed the cropper blades and straps. I've stuck a couple of vids online if you're interested: http://www.asqg42.dsl.pipex.com/almax/oxfordmonster.wmv http://www.asqg42.dsl.pipex.com/almax/englishchain.wmv http://www.asqg42.dsl.pipex.com/almax/abusgranite.wmv -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Nope. Thatcham refuse to say what they do when you give them £2000 to test your chain, but Sold Secure use the exact same croppers as used in the vids, which is why they were used for this test. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Sold Secure 'is now administered by the Master Locksmiths Association.' Obviously I'm not insinuating that there's any conflict of interest... -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Interesting. I looked and my chain, Onguard (picture of a dog on the lock), is Thatcham approved. I wonder it it's one of those but sold here under another name?
So imagine what one of those neat little hydraulic chain cutters is going to achieve, and a sight easier to carry around. Almax already had something like this up, hope you are going to point it all out to the Insurance Industry. I've taken to running a chain/padlock through the back wheel locked tight over the seat. At least makes it feckin difficult to get at it with hand croppers such as you featured.
I just make vids these days, but Almax want to tell everyone. Sold Secure claimed earlier today that it was all faked - but refused Almax's invitation for a private demonstration. I think Thatcham refused to discuss the results at all. I know they want to send copies of the vid to all the insurance companies out there so they know the score. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
<sniff> I think I smell fish... no, wait a minute; it's the whiff of bullshit emanating from the MLA. Could, of course, be the stink of corruption.
Scary stuff. I notice that Almax don't do their own locks though - did they do similar testing on the Squire lock they sell? Not much good having an Uberchain, if the scrotes can crop the lock instead. .
Did you read the fucking thing? Anyway, I want to see some tests with a battery powered angle grinder
They use Squire locks, which are apparently superb. Bizarrely, the Oxford Padlock was dramatically harder to break than the Oxford chains. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
They seem to, yes. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Hog wrote Sad to say but I think a hydraulic bolt cropper is the way to go for sheer speed with this one. Not as elegant as solutions go as the humble angle grinder I do concede but fast, where fast is a requirement.
In uk.rec.motorcycles, Veggie Dave belched forth and ejected the following: I've got the MC4 lock and chain. I really should get round to using them.
In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck belched forth and ejected the following: A fucking ferry chain and anchor won't stop the cunts burning it though.