He did some bollocks which almost made Hardly Davidson sound like they belonged in a magazine focusing on motorcycles. Never mentioned plough attachments once ~ so you have to wonder about the research ;-) I wouldn't mind that level of depreciation 'though. -- -- Nidge ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63 BOMB#5 'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'. Homer (Simpson).
If you wanted to cheer us up you could at least have included the figure for Classic Bikes. I'll make you a small and purely theoretical wager that now Tim Thompson's been given lead of Performance Bikes it goes steadily up the readership league table. It used to be juvenile. Suddenly there's lot less tit pics, fewer sad wanna be laddish bits and lots more content. Still it bit short most of the bits but things like Olly Crick's restoration / revamp / improvement of the Mk1 R1 are bloody good. Whether it'll climb high enough to survive 'though ....... -- -- Nidge ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63 BOMB#5 'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'. Homer (Simpson).
I think it's about 55-60k. I'd have to check. I would not take that bet. I agree utterly. Trouble is that he might make it too like Bike, and EMAP don't want that. It should cater for a different market.
Paul Corfield emerged from their own little world to say only 3-5? Although, after recent events [1] it seems senior academics are as reliable as senior managers in Dilbert world [1] no research council funded PG place for me at Cardiff. There are other options in academia but I might just have to <whispers> get a job.
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ Look, cocker, you are currently this ---><--- close to getting another "PAHND!" fund started. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets and Ducati Race Engineer. WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Well, I've subscribed to RealClassic, buy BSH occasionally, and Bike once or twice a year. I used to buy shitloads of mags, but I've somehow lost the will...
Why so ? I think it'd just change the advertising mix - more ads for CBR125s and less for squillion quid racetrack homologation specials from Italy ? What else do teenage boys buy - mobile ringtones, zit cream ? Geez, sack the marketing guy if he can't work that shit out. JL (and I guess "Bike" could start flogging nursing home beds ;-)
Less competition for the motorcycle and accessories producer's advertising dollar, yes, it could help. The survivors can charge the ones who are going to advertise regardless more money (and hence makes them more profitable), which gives them more bucks to do hire good people and do a decent job. JL (but it's more likely the survivors will just pocket the extra profit)
But isn't that the point ? Stop trying to satisfy everyone, and take a niche you can satisfy ? Classic Bike does a decent job of looking after elderly gents with a hankering for past glory days(1), but the rest try to be all things to all people. If superbike has the spotty face brigade sewn up then it should concentrate on its core business. Err, umm OK, well I'll shut up now then. JL Off to buy a clue, anyone spare me a quid ? 1 Which is most unfair, it's actually rather well written and with decent content
In uk.rec.motorcycles, The Older Gentleman amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom: Sounds like one of my old school reports and they didn't have a clue either... I would buy more mags, or even buy more of a particular mag if they had more fun in it. I snipped the bit about the never ending 600 road tests but that pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.
I sub to Bike and TWO but only Dan Walsh has interested me in Bike for yonks and I'll be stopping the sub soon. I'm a bit fed up with them always reviewing the same bikes month in month out, or so it seems.
Do it soonest. I cancelled mine months ago and despite several phone calls I still get a copy delivered each month. True, they should occasionally do something on not so SOB's, as we can't all afford the latest exotica. -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going) Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:52:07 GMT in uk.rec.motorcycles, platypus says: [Bike Magazines] I buy occasionally, usually if I know I am going to be stuck somewhere[1]. I get 3 non bike magazines delivered but only really read 2 of them[2]. [1] Working away usually [2] CSMA mag is only any good for the amusing letters.
# I'm gonna live forever. I'm gonna learn how to fly. [HIGH] # I feel it comin' together. People will see me and cry. [FAME] # I'm gonna make it to heaven. Light up the sky like a flame. [FAME] # I'm gonna live forever. Baby, Remember my name.
I've read bike since before my 17th birthday - well, I've bought it. It often goes in the bin only partly read nowadays. I've got some old copies (mostly with GL1500/KH500 tests in). The thing that gets me is how few (less?) road tests they used to have in the olden days. Two or three bikes per month seem to be the norm. A lot more articles about doing stuff/going somewhere on a bike, rather than just thrashing the tappets off it. -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C |_\_____/_| ..75409../..18748.../..3196./.19406 (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5 |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG* \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 '^' RBR Landmarks: 18 Pts: 305 Miles: 1193