Too right. I still want to inflict harm on the cunts who knocked over my CG then kicked shit out of me. -- Muck Bandit 600n(With added ducktape); CG125(MSOHPR) "I've got a CG125, and I'm not affraid to use it." DS#1 ; DOMO#1 ; SH#2 ; ICQ: 166144431 Remove _TEETH_ to e-mail
Fucking right it is. The local scrotes around here have been "quietly warned" that touching any of my SOB collection will result in the knobbly end of a torque wrench being applied generously to their knees. I don`t have much money. My collection has been worked/saved/scrimped for, and I`ll be fucked if some raggedy little fuckwit is going to take that away from me and get away with any less than a sound beating.
Its not only the bike, there are other aspects to consider. ie: what they do with the bike after its been stolen. In my local park we have had one fatal and several serious incidents in the last few years, almost all of them have been caused by teenagers on stolen bikes. Start thinking from a parents point of view, one thats just seen some scrote on a stolen machine attempt to wheely between the swings and the slide whilst your young children are trying to play. The same scrotes will think twice about where they play with their latest acquisitions when they realise that someone is willing to play by their rulebook - take it from me, they do not like having their latest toys taken off of them[1] and they do not like to have to make sure it is safe to walk before they go somewhere that is out of sight of other people[2] Funny thing is I have not seen a scrote on a stolen bike in my local park for weeks. [1] either while they are playing with them or from where they have stashed them between playtimes.[3] [2] I ain't admiting nufink [3] 5 machines recovered or rendered unplayable with and a lot more chased away or caught by local law so far this year. -- Kevin - Basildon pushbike (mine) CG125 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
On reflection, I think not, although circumstances would have a lot to do with it - I don't think I could commit a pre-meditated murder, but I think I would kill to defend myself, or protect others, if I truly believed I had no choice. Some things are wrong just because they are. I don't plan on finding out, however.
Do you hear that? That's the sound of one el-fucking-grande can of worms on the verge of being opened, that is. "Hate" isn't the right word, but something denoting fervent opposition may be in the ballpark. I call 'em as I see 'em; I see'em through thick glasses and blinkers at times though. Let's just not go there, shall we? It'll make life easier.
I was just wondering what sort of scrotes would be desperate or daft enough to want a collection of moribund Honda CB250RSs.
*Ahem* You`ve got the wrong Loz... Besides, for values of "desperate" or "daft", I live in Liverpool. Case closed, m`lud.
Oops, so I have. Perhaps he ought to choose another nick. Or perhaps I ought to wake up. Plea accepted.
And if you wanted to commit a murder for the sake of killing someone then I agree , you could quite easily get away with that as long as you were careful about leaving evidence behind. Again , a fair point , but most murders are committed not just for something to do to pass the time , but because the murderer either feels that he will benefit from the other person's death , or because he has an active dislike/hatred of the victim. In this case then there is both a vastly increased risk of getting caught and also a corresponding drop in respect for the potential victim. If you take away one of the two deterrents completely by eliminating the risk of negative consequences then all you are left with is respect for the life of a person who you hold in very low regard and that on its own would not be enough to stop a great number of people. Yep. Although isn't that how kids are taught to behave at a young age? They are told off by their parents when they do wrong and the initial deterrent to future misdeeds is a fear that they will be told off again. They then balance the benefits of their actions against the consequences and decide it is not a good idea to play up. IMO its only at a later stage , possibly when their own rights have been infringed , that they develop their own opinions about what is and isn't acceptable behaviour as they have a better understanding of the consequences of their actions. Maybe , maybe not. In a lot of cases it may also mean that he will decide not to steal again. I know when I was a kid I sometimes did things I am not proud of , but as I grew up I came to the conclusion that that behaviour wasn't on and stopped. This was despite not having been caught , although I know that if I had been then I would have stopped sooner. Unfortunately the technology does not exist to go back in time to when the scrotes that nicked my bike were learning what is acceptable. -- Alex SRX 400 "I laugh in the face of danger" "Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk
Desmond Coughlan : I think, given the right situation, most people would. Over mere property, probably not.
steve auvache Interesting point. So will local plod be even bothered to check? [1] [1] Obviously a low probability shot, with 400km travelled the forecourt doesn't have to be that close. But then I'd assume they'd have a rough idea where to look in first place.
le Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:35:52 +0100, dans l'article <3f85aa89$0$65585$>, fatgrah.am <ma.hargtaf@maharg> a dit ... { snip } Is it worth inflicting physical harm? Yes Is it worth getting a criminal record for it? No. That's what hired thugs are for.
True, but more than likely they wouldn't have paid for the petrol and there is a chance that the theft of the petrol may have been reported.
So you are prepared to steal someones life? Dodsn't that make you as bad as someone prepared to steal something replaceable (ie a bike)? Phil
They could have nicked it from a car, or another bike. -- Muck Bandit 600n(With added ducktape); CG125(MSOHPR) "I've got a CG125, and I'm not affraid to use it." DS#1 ; DOMO#1 ; SH#2 ; ICQ: 166144431 Remove _TEETH_ to e-mail
Have you ever worked in a petrol station? I used to. Most stations have at least one drive off a week. Half the time they don't bother reporting them as they are so common. Plus the scrotes may have paid for petrol.
I have done, but back when most had yet to be self-service. I did once find £80 on the forecourt, though, which was nice[1]. I didn't realise it was that prevalent. / See Muck's post and my reply [1] Being the upstanding citizen that I am, I actually took it to the police. They told me to keep it and in the unlikely event that it was reported, they would contact me. It just meant I had to wait a few days before I could spend it.
