Bike/Car Drags - why do you bother?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Manning, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. Manning

    Matt Palmer Guest

    Shane is of the opinion:
    If I'd done a spot of lanesplitting up a half-dozen cars, any f**kwit
    incapable of anticipating road conditions would have wiped out some other
    cage instead of me.

    Being at the rear of stationary traffic (or even moving traffic) makes you a
    target for anything coming along, and gives you very poor options for
    getting out of the way. Although you're boxing yourself up more by getting
    in amongst the cages, at least your arse is protected (get Everlast brand
    chastity belts for maximum protection).
    They'd already stopped. I don't split moving traffic.
    I'd rather have them off the road, personally.
    I would have been fine. And if I'd been two cars further up, I would have
    been good too (although probably seriously freaked out).

    - Matt
     
    Matt Palmer, Nov 19, 2003
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    Kieron Guest

    I was thinking of when a bike lane splits in peak hour traffic, cars
    are moving, changing lanes and stopping.
     
    Kieron, Nov 19, 2003
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    John Littler Guest

    If I'm ever holding up a car or a bike I'll let it through doesn't happen
    terribly often - on the Old Rd I won't go more than 10K over the limit though,
    as it's way too heavily policed.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 19, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    Lane splitting accidents are very, very rare. Cars do not change lanes
    quickly at low speeds because for one, they are only moving slowly (obvious)
    and two, slow moving traffic usually does not leave gaps big enough for cars
    to squeeze into. A moderately alert rider splitting slow moving traffic will
    be able to see and avoid cars changing lanes. The circumstances when lane
    splitting accidents might occur is where cars are turning into or out of side
    streets or driveways using gaps in traffic or clearways, where they cut across
    the traffic flow at 90 degrees and the bike t-bones the car. I believe in
    such a situation it would still be the car driver at fault, for failing to
    give way. Using a degree of caution and common sense and keeping an eye out
    ahead when lane splitting minimizes risk of such accidents.
    Very nice of ya. I always wave or say thanks.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Nov 19, 2003
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    CatharticF1 Guest

    Well, I particularly like doing it on wet days, or traffic lights where
    there is an immediate corner - particularly in the wet.

    I just love all of the heroes who scream like a girl when it rains.

    Mmmmmm .. roundabouts ;-p
     
    CatharticF1, Nov 19, 2003
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    Centurion Guest

    The first 10-15m the bike probably hasn't got the clutch fully engaged yet!
    Once that clutch is all the way out it's "cya later!".
    Yep - a boss I had once drove white Countach and damn that thing was fast
    (for a car). He lived in Alice Springs and regularly did trips to Darwin.
    Not sure how long it took him to do that trip but I went for a ride with
    him once: 280km/h is fast in anyone's book. He said that his usual
    "cruise" speed was around the 200-240km/h mark!!
    And sometimes it's even more fun to be the one who takes off hard...

    --James
    ZZR250==>ZX9R
    __________________________________
    A random quote of nothing:

    Quality control, n.:
    Assuring that the quality of a product does not get out of hand
    and add to the cost of its manufacture or design.
     
    Centurion, Nov 19, 2003
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    Scribble Guest

    not sure how old you actually are but as a rider from wa-ay back, this was a
    term rarely used by true Aussie bike riders.
    I used to see it from time to time in American magazines but being
    non-American find no use for the term, as did most of
    my fellow riders at the time.
    As most if not all riders back then (and I suspect still now) also
    owned/drove cars the distinction is somewhat farcical in the least?
    Having suffered my fair share of intense pain at the hands of a car driver
    whilst on a bike and seen many examples of extreme selfishness and lunacy
    from bike riders I would suggest any all-encompassing term for either is
    purely wank.

    cheers
    Steve
     
    Scribble, Nov 19, 2003
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    Scribble Guest

    absolutely true and had the expected response from the expected sources :0)

    cheers
    Steve
     
    Scribble, Nov 19, 2003
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    Scribble Guest

    Although that fairly accurately describes me, I would prefer you directed
    your love in another direction thanks,
    I'm sure you can find willing recipients if you direct your emotions more
    carefully :0)

    cheers
    Steve
     
    Scribble, Nov 19, 2003
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    Damien Guest

    :0)

    Go tell someone who cares - perhaps you could find them at
    http://www.toilet.org.sg?

    oh, and have a happy World Toilet Day, everybody! :)

    Damien (you know it makes sense[1])
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600

    [1] which is probably more than I can say for me.
     
    Damien, Nov 19, 2003
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    Dave Ello Guest

    I know you're just concerned about being too noisy... It couldn't be any
    other reason - too much of a waste of all that power. :)

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
     
    Dave Ello, Nov 19, 2003
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    st3ph3nm Guest

    Hi Al,

    How's two wheeling suiting you?
    Oh, by the way, is it still a cage if it's got a soft-top?

    Cheers,
    Steve
    still haven't got the car setup for you to return the navigation favour...
    :(
     
    st3ph3nm, Nov 19, 2003
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    Boxer Guest

    A soft top cage is a bucket.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 19, 2003
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    RM Guest

    Much more useful than this emotive "trying to kill me" rubbish.
    now now...emotivity is the backbone of the media
     
    RM, Nov 19, 2003
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    RM Guest

    If some tosser on a wankcycle pulls into the space I allow between
    i agree...but its a general problem no matter what transport you use...i
    drove trucks for a while and you leave enough space to pull up in, which
    people pull into so you drop back...etc...by the end of the second week
    there is no space and you are dangerously close to the vehicle in
    front...same happens on a bike or car if you try and use this 2 second rule

    so the previous post becomes;

    If some tosser on the road pulls into the space I allow between
    my vehicle and the vehicle in front of me and happens to still be there
    when the lights change, I will ignore his presence and accelerate
    away at my usual or preferred pace. He better get out of the way,
    and have a damn good reaction time!
     
    RM, Nov 19, 2003
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    Mike.S Guest

    2. A very long time ago, my brother came up alongside a Lamborghini
    I had a similar thing going through Newcastle a couple or so yrs ago in my
    (then) celica, i pulled up next to a early 90's Ferrari (im not sure which one,
    but it was red!), thought "ah **** it" and then gave my little 2 litre the go of
    its life.
    The ferrari driver (whom i never made eye contact or anything with)started
    to keep up, and as i hit about 110 just zotted off in about third and screamed
    away like a bottle of angry bees.

    It was pointless and fun, but it had me grinning for the rest of my trip home.

    Mike.S
     
    Mike.S, Nov 19, 2003
  17. I keep a general eye out for bikes when in traffic and if I see one
    Very decent of you, but please, check both sides as you don't want
    to hit the bike lane splitting on the other side. (after the first few
    times
    I was nearly hit, I made a point of not staying too close to people
    splitting in a different lane to the one I was splitting.)

    Personally, I'm happy if everyone just stays where they are, and I
    will find my own way around you.

    Rob.
     
    Robert Irvine, Nov 19, 2003
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    Dene Oehme Guest

    No... You thought you'd go for a troll.
    Why do bike riders always think SOMEONE is trying to drag them at
    every set of lights?
    Shows what a bunch of predictable pea-brains you are then. No matter
    how foregone the conclusion you'll always enter the pissing contest
    rather than letting the guy just live in a dream.
    See previous sentence - Why do you?
    No... we just like to see you go real fast. It's Sooo impressive.
    Besides - there's always the hope that when your up to warp factor 9.3
    someone pulls out in front of you without seeing you.



    Regards

    Dene Oehme
    "The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist"
     
    Dene Oehme, Nov 19, 2003
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    knobdoodle Guest

    That's what he keeps trying to sell us Iain but I'm not buying it!
    Perhaps he has ridden bikes for work but he certainly is no bike enthusiast
    so I see absolutely ZERO reason to think he'd understand motorcycling any
    better than I understand long-haul truck driving!

    Anyone who has to keep telling everyone how credentialled lack creedence
    with me!

    I'd prefer to listen to a bloke who can tell the difference between a
    Hyabusa and a Helix, between a Supermotard and a ScooterRetard, a bloke who
    actually calls a bike a bike (and a bloke who knows what a "cage" is)!
    A bloke like Zebee!
    Clem
     
    knobdoodle, Nov 19, 2003
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    Dene Oehme Guest

    With no respect - it is trolling. Now **** off back to your piss-ant
    bike group..



    Regards

    Dene Oehme
    "The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist"
     
    Dene Oehme, Nov 19, 2003
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