Bike bans from national parks ...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Steve Parry, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. Steve Parry

    Des Guest

    The last time I posted on modern western society's changing attitude to
    death (in 2002, perhaps), Simian responded with, 'you don't half post a lot
    of crap' or something.

    It's comforting that my views are generally five to ten years ahead of the
    rest of you. Who knows, come 2012, 'Palestinians' will be regarded as the
    lying, murdering bastards that they in fact are.

    D.
     
    Des, Nov 8, 2007
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  2. Steve Parry

    TOG Guest

    Disagree. Road deaths have been a political issue for decades, or they
    wouldn't have started tightening the legislative ratchet as far back
    as they did.
    See above. 'Back then' was when they started doing something about it.
    Speed limits, breathalysers, etc etc
     
    TOG, Nov 8, 2007
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  3. Steve Parry

    TOG Guest

    Disagree. Road deaths have been a political issue for decades, or they
    wouldn't have started tightening the legislative ratchet as far back
    as they did.
    See above. 'Back then' was when they started doing something about it.
    Speed limits, breathalysers, etc etc
     
    TOG, Nov 8, 2007
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  4. Steve Parry

    Cab Guest

    "It is believed the rider of the sports bike failed to take a corner
    and crossed into the path of a group of bikers – some on Harley
    Davidsons – travelling in the opposite direction."
     
    Cab, Nov 8, 2007
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  5. Steve Parry

    Catman Guest

    Thanks for that. Put into words what's been eating at me for a few days.
    I think I may go and sit by myself for a bit.


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    Catman, Nov 8, 2007
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  6. Steve Parry

    TOG Guest

    I find it hard to believe that a politician would deliberately
    introduce a measure in the expectation of widespread civil
    disobedience, actually. And the safety programme goes *way* further
    back than that.
    This is true.
     
    TOG, Nov 8, 2007
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  7. Breathing, walking, talking, chewing gum.. :)

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 8, 2007
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  8. I'd blame the Irresponsible Generation but as I am a part of it I dance
    a happy little dance. I've had my fun thanks and you kids can pay for
    it.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 8, 2007
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  9. Believe it, Pakistan today, the invasion of Cambodia 40 years ago,
    Westminster back in the days of the poll tax. And the connection
    between HMG making plans to actively join merkainia in Vietnam which
    caused every police station in this green and pleasant land to be fitted
    with armoured glass back in the 70's. Although it may well be that the
    politicians in question chose to believe their advisors when given wring
    advice.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 8, 2007
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  10. Steve Parry

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I blame Arthur Edsell.
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    Pete Fisher, Nov 8, 2007
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  11. And what's wrong with being immolated in a fireball anyway eh?

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 8, 2007
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  12. Steve Parry

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    Or you might have changed your views on them, yet again. A five year
    cycle seems about right.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 8, 2007
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  13. Steve Parry

    Des Guest

    Plus, there really is little room to disagree with the famous line that
    those who seek power, are the very ones who should be prevented from
    holding it (I paraphrase).

    D.
     
    Des, Nov 8, 2007
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  14. Steve Parry

    Timo Geusch Guest

    It most certainly did back then, and it still does - have a look at the
    average standard of driving.
    It's that, but then again they probably /do/ signal that you're at the
    limit. But the limit's so high that by the time you get there, Joe
    Average Driver is way out of his depth and simply *won't* be able to
    anything about it.

    The brakes are better, as is the handling but the laws of physics
    haven't changed. And I'd say that if a modern fast-ish car lets go,
    you've got a lot less time to catch it than you would've had in an
    older car that reaches its limits sooner.
    There's that as well. Plus with all the gizmos you don't have to have
    the same level of skill you would've needed twenty years ago, just to
    keep the car on the road at the kind of speed a lot of people are now
    dozing at.

    One of the guys I work with owns a Maserati - he thinks it's mostly
    undriveable with the traction control off. I doubt that, but I'd say
    that it's hard work to do so.
    Oh so true. And the 'more vehicles on the road' would also suggest that
    you've got less time to react before you hit something.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 8, 2007
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  15. Fair enough. Like I implied, cars really aren't my province.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 8, 2007
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  16. Steve Parry

    deadmail Guest

    Eh? Why?
    That's not been my experience. No one's asked me when I'm going to stop
    riding *that I remember* in over 20 years (and only then because I'd had
    a significant accident.)
     
    deadmail, Nov 8, 2007
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  17. Steve Parry

    Catman Guest

    Hence my surprise.
    Memory loss, innit? ;)

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    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Nov 9, 2007
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    Dan L Guest

    "****-nuggett"

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    Dan L, Nov 12, 2007
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