Bike Alarms.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cab, Dec 2, 2008.

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    Cab Guest

    I quite like my "Banshee"

    If I lose the fob or the battery dies, there's quite a nifty manual
    method to deactivate the alarm involving switching off and on the
    ignition with a 4 figure PIN.

    Anyone else seen a system like this?
     
    Cab, Dec 2, 2008
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  2. <Foreboding tone>

    You won't.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 3, 2008
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    Catman Guest

    ISTR my old Datatool had something similar.

    Still[1] got nicked though.

    [1] Totally still. No gear lever, coolant, clutch lever etc etc etc.

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    Catman, Dec 3, 2008
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    Rudy Lacchin Guest

    Try it now before it's too late. Your local Datatool dealer can wave a
    magic wand over it if necessary.

    I'll have to get round to sorting mine out soon...
     
    Rudy Lacchin, Dec 3, 2008
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    dazlewis1970 Guest

    BGN - I had this a couple of years ago when I got a bike with a Sys.
    3. I asked Datatool if there was anything I could do and they said....

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    If you have purchased a bike with a Datatool System3 or S4 alarm
    already installed, they can be programmed with a PIN override. If the
    previous owner set a pin originally, but has either forgotten to pass
    on the PIN or has forgotten the PIN themselves, you will have to take
    your bike to your nearest Datatool dealer, where they will perform a
    procedure known as a ‘PIN DUMP’. This will drain any Pin from the
    system. Once this has been performed, either you or the dealer can set
    a PIN of your choosing (4 digits long & 1-9).


    In some instances the previous/original owner may have not set a PIN,
    if you are not in contact with the previous owner and aren’t sure
    weather they set one. The best thing to do is try the ‘Initial Pin
    Entry’ procedure on page 6 of the user guide. If you are unsuccessful
    setting a pin, it is more than likely that a PIN has been previously
    set.

    Please use the ‘Where’s my nearest dealer?’ facility on our website
    www.datatool.co.uk to locate your nearest 10 Datatool dealers.


    Customer Service Supervisor
    Datatool UK
     
    dazlewis1970, Dec 3, 2008
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    dazlewis1970 Guest

    Hello - I seem to suffer from having the same name as someone more
    famous here - my rare delurks have resulted in calls of "wow! - long-
    time no see" before. However, i suspect these cries are aimed at
    someone else (unless of course you are simply being very enthusiastic
    in your welcoming, in which case, I have been fine, thanks for
    asking).

    Darren2
     
    dazlewis1970, Dec 4, 2008
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    CT Guest

    Maybe you need a proper .sig: "No, I am not *that* Daz Lewis!"
     
    CT, Dec 4, 2008
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    Catman Guest

    *cough*

    *I'm* Daz Lewis

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    Catman, Dec 4, 2008
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    ogden Guest

    *I'm* Daz Lewis. And so's my wife.
     
    ogden, Dec 4, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1ird439.1j97ulaltco35N%>,
    <blog>

    Cunty bollocks. I thought the Clifford alarm on the MX5 was
    non-functioning - not that I have even bothered to set it before.

    Haven't used it for 10 days or so and on trying to start it found the
    battery nearly flat. A few laboured turns and no go. On switching off
    again a banshee melody of various siren modes was set off.

    Shades of the SO Pug 306. I had to totally disable the one on that in
    the end. At least this one stopped eventually. The plip on the key ring
    does actually seem to do something to my amazement. I hadn't
    experimented with it before. Once bitten with shite old alarms, twice
    shy.

    Just hoping the immobiliser hasn't cut in and that it will be OK once
    the battery is charged up again. I suppose I ought to treat it to a new
    one, but it is a special small vented job not much bigger than the
    battery the Mille had.

    Fingers crossed.

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    Pete Fisher, Dec 4, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    You were right the first time but it always makes me laugh so keep
    posting as dazlewis.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 4, 2008
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  12. <Sweeping statement>

    Alarms and immobilisers, on bikes, are more trouble than they're worth.

    </ss>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 4, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1irftrg.5htw8e1uwmpjsN%>,

    I'm not in a position to comment from experience, but I suspect you may
    be right.

    Anyway, the Mazda was OK. I don't know if the after market Clifford
    alarm is linked to the OEM immobiliser (chip in key, not a separate
    plip). I hope never to find out.


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    Pete Fisher, Dec 4, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    http://www.swiftcomm.co.uk/alt4/
     
    platypus, Dec 4, 2008
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    wessie Guest

    @ps-fisher.demon.co.uk:

    The Westco AGM will still go flat if you leave it long enough with an alarm
    in circuit.

    Any charger will top up a partially discharged AGM battery. I gave mine an
    overnight session on the Optimate last week as I haven't been able to ride
    the bike since July.

    If you deep discharge an AGM battery then you will need a particular type
    of charger. An Optimate does not have enough wattage to wake one up,
    according to posts on UKGSer.

    Does the smog lift in Wolverhampton enough for one of those Maplin
    photocell chargers to be of any use?
     
    wessie, Dec 5, 2008
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  16. Quite possibly an older traditional charger with no fancy control
    bollocks on it - just raw DC and half-wave at that. The pulsing nature
    of the unsmoothed DC suits LA cells better than smoothed and I wonder if
    AGM cells are similar - but perhaps not for in-service use.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 7, 2008
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    wessie Guest

    No idea. I don't let mine go flat either. As recent events show, it takes
    over 4 months for the voltage to drop significantly, should the bike not be
    used for a while. 24 hours on the weedy output Optimate gets it back to
    optimum voltage.

    These AGM batteries are used in total loss applications such as karts &
    robots. I'm sure you could find a forum with the answer...
     
    wessie, Dec 7, 2008
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