Bike Alarms - non Thatcham!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Harry Bloomfield, Nov 21, 2004.

  1. Hi,

    Earlier I asked if anyone had experience of the Astrodon system. No one
    offered any good or bad feed back, so I took the risk and splashed out
    on one. I ordered the alarm plus the remote pager option.

    http://www.astrodonalarms.com/

    I have just finished installing it and I thought you might be
    interested in the results.....

    The unit comes with two remotes, the main alarm unit, a speaker and the
    actual sounder. No tyraps, no cable joints and very poor instructions
    for its installation. Connections are as follows:-

    Battery +ve plus 2x grounds, immobiliser pair, starter solenoid,
    ignition on sense combined with an ignition system feed (so the bike
    can be remote started).

    The alarm can be set off by one of two methods...

    1. If the alarm senses a sharp vibration, though it does ignore the low
    frequency stuff.

    2. If the alarm senses the ignition supply come on via either the key,
    or someone trying to bypass the ignition lock.

    The vibration sensor is extremely sensitive, detecting even the very
    slightest of contacts with the bike. Just tapping a finger nail against
    the body triggers the voice warning. Continued tapping after the voice
    warning has finished then triggers the main alarm sounder. If an
    attempt is made to bypass the ignition, then the main alarm triggers
    straight away. It does seem to be pretty immune to the rumble of
    passing traffic even on its most sensitive setting. Both the speaker
    and the noise from the alarm sounder are extremely loud. Painful at
    close range. The system also uses a rolling code on the remote to
    prevent it being scanned.

    It has to be manually armed with the remote, not automatic arming when
    you turn the ignition off. It also lacks an alarmed warning LED and the
    remotes are much bigger than most, including a tiny telescopic antenna
    to extend its range. This is supposed to be about 200m and I have no
    reason to doubt this.

    If the complete unit is fully wired, the bike can be both started
    remotely and stopped if it is hijacked. Remote starting turns the
    ignition on, the alarm off and fires the starter solenoid for a few
    seconds. The way I have wired it it does not try to start the engine if
    it is in gear. Another button on the remote triggers the indicators
    into flashing and several pulse on the alarm to allow you to find the
    bike in a busy car park.

    So considering the low cost, I am quite impressed with the basic alarm
    unit. I am less than impressed with the remote pager...

    The instructions suggested the transmitter be connected across the
    alarm sounder. Doing this the level of noise from the sounder decreased
    markedly and the pager failed to be triggered at all. Trying the
    transmitter directly across the battery it only faired slightly better,
    triggering the pager very rarely at close range. My assumption is that
    this part of the kit must be faulty and I have asked the supplier for a
    replacement. I would guess the pager is quite heavy on batteries,
    because it can be powered from a wall wart.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Nov 21, 2004
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  2. <gloom>

    It'll still go wrong, still flatten yer battery, and still **** up yer
    electrics.

    </gloom>

    Bike alarms are the work of Satan.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 21, 2004
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  3. Harry Bloomfield

    Mike Hill Guest

    On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:32:47 GMT, Harry Bloomfield

    <snip>
    OT, but when are they adding the Intermediate course ?
    Mike.
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    Mike Hill, Nov 21, 2004
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  4. RSGB or us (ARC)?

    If you meant us, then we are presently lacking in both enthusiasm and a
    stable range of courses upon which to base our courses. In other words
    the target we were aiming for keeps being moved.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Nov 21, 2004
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    Salad Dodger Guest


    <gloom>

    It'll still go wrong, still flatten yer battery, and still **** up yer
    electrics.[/QUOTE]

    A combined 20 years of troublefree Datatool ownership urges me to
    disagree with that statement.
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    Salad Dodger, Nov 21, 2004
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Beav was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Yes, I can see that even Satan doesn't want to be associated with
    something this crap.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 21, 2004
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    wessie Guest

    Harry Bloomfield emerged from their own little world to say
    I don't like the idea of remote starting/stopping. Potentially lethal if
    the button on the key fob gets accidentally pressed in your pocket or the
    ECU fucks up? This feature on Datatool alarms used to **** up enough for
    them to withdraw it IIRC.
     
    wessie, Nov 21, 2004
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  8. A combined 20 years of troublefree Datatool ownership urges me to
    disagree with that statement.[/QUOTE]


    <Nose in air>

    The exception that proves the rule.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 21, 2004
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    Mike Hill Guest

    Yeah, it was ARC I meant. I had heard they were changing the syllabus
    a fair bit :-( About time the RSGB and others left things alone for a
    while. I might have a go next year.
    Mike. M3MCH.
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    '02 GSF1200 in silver : RD250LC (not at all mint, yet)
    www.rivingtonbarn.com (Rivvy website)
    http://www.rivingtonbarn.com/phpbb/portal.php (Forum)
    Email address spamtrapped.
    Remove "your clothes" to reply.
     
    Mike Hill, Nov 21, 2004
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  10. Do it now. It's a piece of piss.

    2E0GBR
     
    Whinging Courier, Nov 22, 2004
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  11. It is easy enough to enable or disable the remote starting, just
    disconnect the wire to the starter solenoid. The remote has tiny
    recessed buttons, a slide ove cover and it takes a sequence of two
    button presses to get it to fire the starter, so not much chance of
    accidently triggering it. The remote engine stop is an integral part of
    the immobilisor system, so there is no way to disable this function
    easily.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Nov 22, 2004
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  12. Harry Bloomfield

    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman says...
    Agreed
     
    Lozzo, Nov 23, 2004
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  13. Harry Bloomfield

    Lozzo Guest

    Salad Dodger says...
    A combined 20 years of troublefree Datatool ownership urges me to
    disagree with that statement.[/QUOTE]

    Not evena Datatool would dare to upset a National Treasure.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 23, 2004
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