Big guys getting there knee down

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by bob, Feb 19, 2004.

  1. bob

    bob Guest

    I am 6'1 and look like a giant on the R6. I have tried in vain to get my
    knee down before I hit my footpegs when cornering but alas I hit my
    footpegs every time. I am leaning off as far as I can but to no success.

    Does anyone have any advice?
    Do big guys have a harder time getting their knees down.

    The reason why this is so important to me is because I want to use my knee
    as a guide, hitting your footpegs at high speeds if very unsettling for me
    and the bike
     
    bob, Feb 19, 2004
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  2. bob

    Fwoar Guest

    Power steer
    Push down on the outside peg

    Only use your knee on the track!
     
    Fwoar, Feb 19, 2004
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  3. bob

    Uncle Bully Guest

    Can't comment on knees down but I remember the first time I got a peg on the
    ground on the Postie I shit my pants. I'm 6'2 so it's a lot of body to be
    hanging off a tiny bike. It must be a lot easier for the little fellas.
     
    Uncle Bully, Feb 19, 2004
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  4. Fwoar can you explain this power steering and pushing down on the
    outside peg business please. Sounds interesting.
     
    Baron Von Rotter, Feb 19, 2004
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  5. bob

    Biggus Guest

    The reason why this is so important to me is because I want to use my knee as a guide,

    If you think that the footpeg is unsettling, then your knee wont be
    much different...Will it?

    You talking on the road? or Track? Must mean the track, or you have a
    good path to work...

    never had a problem with the KRiS or VFR with it, used to hit the
    pegs, knew where I was exactly, and then downed the knee ...

    Remember racing Troy Corser at Oran Park, he NEVER used his knee once
    on his RGV... Weird but true.
     
    Biggus, Feb 19, 2004
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  6. bob

    bob Guest

    What I have found out,
    I place a big mirror infront of the bike. Then I place a stick from the
    center under the bike to the footpegs and up to find out how far I have to
    lean.
    Next I got on the bike with the stand down and started to play around.

    What I discovered.
    Well I found that when hanging off to get your knee right out you need to
    move your arse right back in the seat. Then just move your knee out some
    more when you want to touch. You should be able to pick when you want it
    down. Well thats how it works on the stand, will be interesting doing it
    when on the track Might find a feeway enterence on saturday morning :)

    Does this sound right or am I going down if I try this?
     
    bob, Feb 19, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    forgot to mention that he is 150 Kg

    ;)
     
    Johnnie5, Feb 19, 2004
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  8. bob

    bob Guest

    Na 77Kg but I saw a big guy on a Harley today that would have been very
    close to that. Think he was the spare tyre
     
    bob, Feb 19, 2004
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  9. bob

    Greg Byrnes Guest

    Sit on the bike whilst on a race stand then hang off as you would on the
    track.
    As you move "off" the bike do you find the inside knee getting closer to the
    bike not the ground? Try spreading your legs.
    Getting your knee down has just as much to do with flexibility as it does
    with lean angle.

    If you are touching down the pegs a lot, are you hanging off but keeping the
    top of your body high - in other words bum off the seat but shoulders
    sitting "over" the bike forcing it down?

    If you cannot get it down and want to know how far you are over, try
    experimenting with sticking you toes out till they touch then move them in.
    Make sure you have replacable toe scrapers...

    Greg
     
    Greg Byrnes, Feb 19, 2004
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  10. bob

    BT Humble Guest

    Hitting your knee on a rock/stick/pothole at high speed can be very
    unsettling to *you*.

    But you're talking about at the track, right?


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Feb 19, 2004
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  11. Freeway entrance?!?!?!?

    "For sale: 1 R6, scuff marks to left hand side, large truck-tire marks to
    entire bike."
     
    James Mayfield, Feb 19, 2004
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  12. Hitting your knee on a rock/stick/pothole at high speed can be very
    This is why the pegs are spring-loaded, so they move out of the way of such
    obstacles. Knees, unfortunately, aren't.
     
    James Mayfield, Feb 19, 2004
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  13. I had a similar problem trying to hang off the GPX250.
    I'm 6'1" and when I had the gpx weighed around 120kg. Yes, about 15kg's
    less than the bike itself.
    I had to be careful hanging off as it felt like my weight was
    destabilising the bike if I went too far.

    Then again I could've been doing it wrong...

    ty
     
    Tony Young (ty), Feb 19, 2004
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  14. bob

    Jules Guest

    I'm also 6'1 and 77kg, never had any drama getting knees down on my R6,
    but only once _ever_ touched a peg town, coming out of the hayshed at P.I.

    In the unlikely event that your suspension is completely stuffed, get
    that fixed.

    Otherwise learn to ride (forgetting about knees), or (and this is more
    likely), stop trolling.
     
    Jules, Feb 19, 2004
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    Smee Guest

    If you don't do this on a track you will not do it.
    If you attempt it on our roads then you will go down and we will sho you
    no sympathy as it's that sort of shite that gives us a bad name
    Save it for the track.
     
    Smee, Feb 20, 2004
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  16. bob

    Johnnie5 Guest

    saw a fat dude on a DR650 a while back and the suspension was fully
    compressed
     
    Johnnie5, Feb 20, 2004
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  17. bob

    bob Guest

    Ah I'm not going to go hard on the road. Just lean off the bike. At the
    very least I'll get the technique right. If I don't touch, I don't touch.
    Only will go like 80Kmh. which is the standard speed I take it anyway. I
    love life and health to much to loss it doing something dumb. I've never
    got my footpeg on the ground on the open road so its unlikely I'll get my
    knee down But on a brighter note, atleast I'm insured on the road He he
     
    bob, Feb 20, 2004
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    Fwoar Guest

    I thought I explained it - It's that simple

    Push down on the outside peg for the duration of the turn

    Stabilises the bike - Allows for great lean angle

    Try it & see if you notice a difference
     
    Fwoar, Feb 20, 2004
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  19. bob

    Biggus Guest

    Its one of those things like counter steering that dont make sense
    until you try it..

    Do a race school, they will also tell you this is how to do it
     
    Biggus, Feb 20, 2004
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  20. Okay so while your pushing down on the outside peg, are you applying
    pressure on the inside peg as well? and leaning off the bike? and
    dropping the shoulder.

    Ive heard of that technique a while ago but someone influential told me
    it was only appropriate for light and quick race bikes... guess it might
    be time to revisit the technique.

    Is it something you do JUST to increase your lean angle? ie to improve
    the chances of you getting your knee down? Or is it a legitimate
    technique for the road as well as track?
     
    Baron Von Rotter, Feb 20, 2004
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