Big Brother wants to see you more often.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by tallbloke, Dec 22, 2005.

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    tallbloke Guest

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    Muck Guest

    "Yesterday, a gang of pedal cycle mounted criminals got away with
    £100,000 in used notes from Lloyds TSB in Uckfield, because the cameras
    could not track them. The government are now piloting a new rfid 'good
    citizen' implant, benefits include being able to being able to buy food,
    and getting hospital treatment."
     
    Muck, Dec 22, 2005
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    Vass Guest

    Vass, Dec 22, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    I'm wondering about this. It really seems like bollocks to me:
    1) How can tehy convert existing cameras to read plates? And then network
    them into the system?
    2) Database capabale of 35m reads per day. By *March* Dunt *really* seem
    likely.

    ISTBC of course
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    Catman, Dec 22, 2005
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    Mups Guest

    I reckon a lot of them already can read plates, the one in supermarkets,
    carparks, petrol stations etc and of course there's the traffic master
    network....
    I'm sure something could be knocked up using Access and IIS by then.
     
    Mups, Dec 22, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well obviously the cameras themselves don't have to - just plumb a
    little black box into the output that scans the camera's pictures and
    then dials in to a mobile network of choice and sends the plate
    number.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 22, 2005
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    dwb Guest


    Nah - Linux is where it's at apparently.
     
    dwb, Dec 22, 2005
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    True , but the camera has to be of sufficient quality to provide a readable
    image , which many aren't
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    tallbloke Guest

    BUT T13

    TUT T13

    Near enough isn't it?
     
    tallbloke, Dec 22, 2005
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    It is if I squint
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    Dr Zoidberg, Dec 22, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    Please god let it use Access.
     
    Christofire, Dec 22, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    Don't you mean writes?
     
    Christofire, Dec 22, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    Christofire, Dec 22, 2005
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    CT Guest

    All we'd need to do is knock up a large poster that displays a Windows
    "Object not found" error message box and attach it to back of leathers
    or put it in the rear window of the car.

    At the least it might confuse them when they look at the photo in
    their new Access application :eek:)
     
    CT, Dec 22, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    With a bit of luck EDS will be implementing it.
     
    Ben, Dec 22, 2005
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    ginge Guest

    No.

    DBASE III
     
    ginge, Dec 22, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    Don't be silly, they won't store the picture, just the number itself.
    Private plates are the only answer - something like 'DROP DATABASE',
    'FORMAT C:', or 'N0T MUSL1M'.

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    ginge Guest

    I'm going to have to see how much a "Select *" numberplate costs.
     
    ginge, Dec 22, 2005
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  19. Not necessarily. Especially if the number plate is grimy.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Dec 22, 2005
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    mikescollan Guest

    My first thought was "how big is that Database gonna be", but having
    worked it out it's less that I originally thought it would be.
    8 bytes for the licence (assumes no change to the licence plate format)
    2 Bytes for the location (Assumes no more that 65k cameras)
    4 bytes for the time (Time in seconds from epoch seems sensible)
    1 byte checksum (dunno much about these, but seemed like a good idea to
    validate data)

    gives 15 bytes per record.
    35M reads a day held for 2 years gives a little under 26 Billion reads
    to be stored.

    Assuming no slack space on disk, that would equate to a bit over 400Gb
    not huge by todays standards. But you would have to have indexing
    which would have overheads in the 20% region, so a half terrabyte to be
    safe.

    However, most modern O/S of any note (Unix) organise disks in 512 byte
    blocks, so each record would occupy a block on its own. This increases
    the projected size to
    a little over 13 Terrabytes. Now that IS big. add in the indexing and
    you don't get a lot of change from 15 Terrabytes.

    Would you like mirroring with that sir?
     
    mikescollan, Dec 22, 2005
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