Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. Mitosis are held in by myclipsis.

    Colin
     
    Colin Blackburn, Aug 12, 2004
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  2. David

    David Martin Guest

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    So recumbents are really an offshoot where chain duplication is not followed
    by chain separation..

    Interesting..

    ...d
     
    David Martin, Aug 12, 2004
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  3. Everybody does - few plants survive the cooking process ;-)

    Guy
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  4. Priceless.
     
    Jeremy Collins, Aug 12, 2004
  5. The size of the wheel makes no difference.
    But if the child is under the age of criminal responsibility...
     
    Nick Finnigan, Aug 12, 2004
  6. David

    davek Guest

    I like your use of the verb 'to Brompton'.

    And there's another good point underlying your comment: if you start
    looking at a Brompton as an alternative to taxis, rather than as an
    alternative to the Tube, it pays for itself even quicker.

    On that basis, you might even be able to get your employer to pay for
    one on expenses. Though maybe more realistic would be getting them to
    bung a tenner your way every time you use the Brompton instead of taking
    a taxi.

    d.
     
    davek, Aug 12, 2004
  7. That's as maybe, but it's not as pervasive and is hardly a decent
    excuse. (And there's no 'perhaps' about it, it *is* wrong for an adult
    to cycle on a pavement where it is not explicitly stated that they can,
    unless the Highway Code gives them a get-out clause, e.g. leaving a
    driveway. You can't pick and choose traffic regulations or any other
    laws ... otherwise, I'd like to opt out of income tax, please :)

    It's not just about a blind adherence to the pronouncements of
    government and the powers that be (because we all know that, cough, the
    government is right, cough, and has the best interests, cough, cough, of
    us all at heart, cough, and knows best, cough, sorry, I think that's
    cleared it). Where traffic law is concerned it's also about predictability.

    If you're obeying the rules, generally speaking, other road users (and
    pedestrians) are getting clear signals about what you are doing and what
    you plan to do. Break the rules and suddenly you're a loose cannon who
    can't be predicted and is dangerous, to yourself and others.

    You can't point to others doing the same thing as an excuse, it didn't
    work in the playground at school and it doesn't hold water now.
     
    chris harrison, Aug 12, 2004
  8. There are certainly problems with perceptions on all sides. There's a
    piece of road I regularly ride (Priory Lane, leading to Richmond Park)
    which has a shared pavement to the side of the road - and the number of
    times I have aggressive drivers beeping their horns and driving too
    close beside me shouting at me telling me I shouldn't be on the road,
    but the pavement, is not funny. Trying to point out the finer nuances of
    difference between voluntary and obligatory generally doesn't work in
    the split second you have (even assuming that they'd listen or understand).

    After all when you're doing 25+mph, you prefer to share a road with a
    car, not a pavement with a pedestrian.

    But I disagree with the general thrust of what you're saying. I think
    that most pavement cyclists know they shouldn't be there, they're just
    doing it anyway because the chances of any punishment is so slim as to
    not worry them.

    But why ride on the pavement when the road is generally less blocked
    (people, lamp-posts, broken paving slabs) and generally more conducive
    to getting from A to B without hinderence. That is the bit that really
    confuses me. (After all, if you're going to ride on the pavement, you're
    going to go straight through red lights, aren't you?)
     
    chris harrison, Aug 12, 2004
  9. Because for generations we have been told that cyclists can only be safe if
    they get out of the way of the cars. God forbid that drivers should be
    required to drive carefully (note the conspicuous exemption from Michael
    Howard's "zero tolerance" approach, for instance), so the only solution
    which occurs to the sheeple is to ride on the pavement.

    Guy
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  10. David

    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Well, it's entirely your choice. But I'd suggest you at least check out
    the opposition, before you go throwing the towel in. ;-)[1]

    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/Cyclefest


    [1] Smiley included to piss of packer. :eek:)[1]

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    Alex Ferrier, Aug 12, 2004
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    I don't think anyone is condoning it. It is foolish and dangerous.
    However, the point (that you're much more likely to be hit or injured
    or killed by a car on the pavement than by a bike on the pavement) is
    still true.
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
  12. David

    Simon Brooke Guest

    I would have thought it was easier to look _warm_ on a scooter in
    typical Italian weather, BICBW.
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
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    Alek Guest

    Log on to Ryanair . com and take your pick of out of the way stations....?
     
    Alek, Aug 12, 2004
  14. chris harrison wrote
    scum on push bikes.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 12, 2004
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    Daytona Guest

    Wrong. You can cycle at less than 10mph.
    If you walked gently for 25 minutes you wouldn't be covering the same
    distance as the 5 miles in your cycling for 25 minutes example. It's
    stupid to compare the 2 examples.

    Daytona
     
    Daytona, Aug 12, 2004
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Hah! You should see my dining room!

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    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
  17. David

    Simon Brooke Guest

    You should try riding around on a bike with a lefty fork. People just
    can't get their heads round it at all. You see them look once, look
    twice, point, jabber excitedly. I've more than once had very excited
    people telling me to stop at once because my bike is broken.
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
  18. David

    Simon Brooke Guest

    I don't believe you're right, but I'd hate to be categoric about it.
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
  19. David

    Simon Brooke Guest

    Ah. So as a non-newspaper-reading, non-sandal-owning, non-vegetarian
    managing director I have to stop riding my bicycle now, do I? Cone on,
    that doesn't even begin to be a good troll.
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 12, 2004
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    Porl Guest

    No, but you're obviously not that serious about it.
     
    Porl, Aug 12, 2004
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