Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. David

    Velvet Guest

    If everyone else is also driving at 10mph, I'd think it would be, yes.
     
    Velvet, Aug 17, 2004
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  2. David

    Grant Guest

    "David Martin" wrote in message
    Because it means I can hold my phone up to my right ear without it snagging
    on the belt.
     
    Grant, Aug 17, 2004
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  3. David

    Matt B Guest

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    Guy, I think the only consequences of all this "surveillance" stuff is that
    you make life too easy for the _real_ criminals, and increasingly
    inconvenient for those who, on the whole, stick to the normal rules of
    society.

    You may think that all motorists are criminals waiting to maliciously kill
    people with their cars, not caring about the consequences of their actions
    because they can speed away from the scene, but I think you are
    disillusioned. Motorists reflect society. If all motorists are criminals,
    then, probably everyone is. ANPR is a useful tool in certain circumstances,
    like the terrorist cordon around London, but not appropriate for the
    respectful policing of a largely (IMHO) civilised society.

    My ideal world is one where cars don't have number plates and where people
    are free to go enjoy their lives in complete privacy, and where we tolerate
    minor variations in "integrity". Yours seems to be a world where everyone's
    every movement is recorded to ensure that any misdemeanour can be avenged.

    Matt
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    Matt B, Aug 17, 2004
  4. David

    Huge Guest

    Except in these days of "just in time" manufacturing, it is.
     
    Huge, Aug 17, 2004
  5. David

    Mike Guest

    You are Prince Charles AICMFF Corgis
     
    Mike, Aug 17, 2004
  6. David

    Eddie Guest

    .... and that, children, is why attributes are A Good Thing.
     
    Eddie, Aug 17, 2004
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    Adrian Guest

    Huge () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
    saying :
    Wrong.
     
    Adrian, Aug 17, 2004
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    PeterT Guest

    Velvet
    Which makes it not incontrovertibly as you apply a caveat.
     
    PeterT, Aug 17, 2004
  9. David

    Huge Guest

    Like fish in a barrel;

    Section 87, Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984:

    'No statutory provision imposing a speed limit ... shall apply to any
    vehicle on an occasion when it is being used for fire brigade,
    ambulance or police purposes, if the observation of that provision
    would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose to
    which it is being put at the time'.
     
    Huge, Aug 17, 2004
  10. Closing speeds being equal, yes.

    Guy
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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 17, 2004
  11. David

    PeterT Guest

    Just zis Guy, you know?
    Bollocks.
     
    PeterT, Aug 17, 2004
  12. And the existence of roads means that living further out becomes
    practicable, increasing the labour pool for jobs in London and holding down
    the compensation which would otherwise have to be paid to compensate for
    higher house prices...

    These things do not exist in isolation.
    And building in car-dependence, bringing doughnutting, depopulated streets,
    ghetto communities... The US experience tells us a lot about the quality of
    life afforded by gearing a society around car use.

    Guy
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    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 17, 2004
  13. I think you'll find they do, they certainly apply to other emergency
    vehicles (or did last time I talked to a fireman). There is a gentlemen's
    agreement not to prosecute on the way to a shout, of course.

    Tachograph regulations don't apply to fire appliances on the way to a shout,
    though. Allegedly.

    Guy
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    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
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  14. David

    Adrian Guest

    Huge () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
    saying :
    Not *quite* so fast...
    I think you'll find it's that last "if" that's the important bit here,
    and which was *far* from clearly stated in the OP's post, as well as
    being implicitly denied in your post.
     
    Adrian, Aug 17, 2004
  15. David

    Huge Guest

    I think you'll find they don't.

    I've already quoted the relevant piece of legislation in another posting.
     
    Huge, Aug 17, 2004
  16. How does ANPR make life difficult for me, in a way that other technologies
    (including the Mk. 1 eyeball) do not? I'm still struggling to understand
    that.
    Actually I think that most motorists just don't care quite enough,
    compounded by misinformation put about by the "speed deosn't kill" brigade
    (who know perfectly well it does), and the documented fact that most drivers
    overestimate their own skill.

    What proportion of the public will not, on principle, remove a pen from the
    office stationery cupboard for personal use? About the same as the
    proportion that will not, on principle, break traffic laws, in my view. The
    key has to be to bring home to people that breaking traffic laws is a key
    factor in making the roads dangerous.
    You are an idealist, obviously. My solution is to opt out of the whole
    traffic stupidity, because I see far too much aggression and carelessness
    coupled to very large, very fast pieces of metal.

    Guy
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    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University
     
    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 17, 2004
  17. David

    Adrian Guest

    Huge () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
    saying :
    You have. It doesn't agree with your blanket statement.
     
    Adrian, Aug 17, 2004
  18. David

    David Guest

    I dont think the question was nonsensical (or moronic) lots of people
    have replied and some have even had some quite sensible suggestions.

    The clear winner at the moment seems to be to get a taxi every day -
    sounds expensive, but when I consider that I am running an additional
    car almost purely for the station run then the cost of doing this is
    actually cheaper!

    So at least somebody understood what I was asking!

    David Bevan

    http://www.davidbevan.co.uk
     
    David, Aug 17, 2004
  19. Which isn't what you claimed at all, is it? If the police officer is off
    to a meeting at HQ, and the speed limit isn't hindering him because he's
    in plenty of time, then the speed limit still applies, despite him being
    on police business.
     
    Keith Willoughby, Aug 17, 2004
  20. David

    Huge Guest

    Hair splitting 101 is thataway ------------------->
     
    Huge, Aug 17, 2004
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