Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

No, because the drug isn't equivilent to accidents, it's equivilent to

In that case its a bad example, 'cos my pill doesn't contain brains, and
hopefully never will. I'm very careful when I swallow my pill to make sure
it doesn't get any brains on it, and so the only way it could get brains on
it is if someone was irresponsible near the mixing thing and fell in.
Their accident, although both our misfortunes.

 

True. However, the pendulum seems to be WAY too far the other way at the

Where on earth did you get that idea from?!? Even where the driver is at
fault the fines are about, what £200?

 

Not when you've got suffient "baby photo" blackmail material they won't ;-)

When I learnt to drive I was taught to expect such thinks to happen on
with parked cars and to look for signs that someone may run out like
shadows under the cars or buses stopped at bus stops and stay a bit
further out from the parked cars to have more reaction time. If its a
residential street then you might curb your speed to suit. It won't
help in every situation but it may just make the difference if it
happens. The problem is that most people steam on blissfully unaware
and just don't think about the what ifs.

Tony

 

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No argument there.

 

I agree but not in the direction you think.

Anthony Wakelin (15) was knocked from his cycle and killed in Wool,
Dorset. James Boffey was overtaking a line of traffic at 60mph in a
30mph limit. He was uninsured and didn't have a driving license. He
had 9 outstanding convictions for driving without a license or
insurance. He was fined £200 and given a two year driving ban!

Carl Baxter reversed his Range Rover 200yds to deliberately hit a father
and his daughter out cycling after the father had remonstrated with him
for passing too close at speed. Steven Kirwin suffered fractures to his
leg, ribs and pelvis. Four year old Emily was unconscious for six days
lost five teeth and suffered fractures to her jaw, nose and palate. She
still has visual problems as a result of the attack. Baxter was jailed
for two years.

So what do you think the driver who hits a little darling that runs out
from behind a car gets?

Tony

 

Are you a doctor? Have you not heard of Caldicott? You do realise
that commenting on the health of an identifiable person without their
consent will cost you your job?

They are identifiable as you have pointed out that they live next door
to you - and you will are identifiable from your name.

 

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About as quantifiable.

Guy in "agreeing with Clarkson" shocker. Trouble is, I'd agree, too. It's
what used to be most instantly identifiable as "Volvo Syndrome", now most
closely associated with lardy big 4x4s.

 

True, as acknowledged.

I disagree. My problem here is that the tolerated level of danger is much
lower when it's "people like us" who are posing the danger. In the case of
railways, for example, we are prepared to tolerate a very low level of risk,
to the extent that the spend per passenger life saved is around £2m. That's
of the order of a hundred times more than for road schemes. So we are a
long way from doing our best to reduce the danger of motor travel. If we
were doing our best, consistent with retaining the benefit of motor travel,
I would be reasonably happy. But we aren't.

To suggest that the current level should be tolerated because zero cannot be
achieved is letting the best be the enemy of the good. That's not really
even a moral argument, save that the value of a life can't really be that
much less when the life is a child pedestrian, say, rather than a rail
commuter.

So bring back the red flag act. But that's not what I'm saying. Speed
limits are one of the many constraints on driving behaviour - widespread
flouting of the law in that respect leads to a reduced respect for other
regulations (as well as increased danger). There is little point having a
law and then not enforcing it. So I advocate a zero tolerance approach,
which should drastically improve levels of discipline. Ideally once people
have started obeying the rules the the number of technical regulations could
be drastically reduced.

"sometimes" in this case means "almost all the time" even with the current
level of cameras.

I personally am saving x people by not driving at all most of the time.

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University

 

Ah, so we should apply much more stringent rules to those who are driving on
business, as they are being paid to do it?

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I was taught not to use it because then some smart arse always comes along
and says "... and don't call me Shirley" ;-)

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University

 

True up to a point (how can you drive safely but without due care, for
example?). However, by breaking the speed limit you are necessarily posing
more risk than you would be driving in the same style at less than the
limit.

No argument there.

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As with any form of identity theft. That is still a bad reason for not
using the technology.

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University

 

Ask one of the legion of black people arrested by the Met over the years due
to misidentification.

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If the main purpose of their job is to drive, then - yes - we should.

 

Driving is exempted from the provisions of the Health & Safety At Work Act
at the moment, it would be very satisfying to see that changed. That might
well have a profound impact on road safety.

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University

 

Yes, but then they weren't arresting one of the white Masters, so
there wasn't anyone of influence to object to it. (hope that's not
offensive to anyone)

I'd be surprised if the thief hadn't left some forensic traces at the
scene, though.

And if there was ANPR in sufficiently widespread use, then instances
of the two Masters being 100km apart over a 10 minute timespread would
give credence to the ID theft claim.

A

 

The technology is flawed. It instills a false sense of security. You only
need to spot a similar car to yours which _is_ taxed and use its
registration to become immune from the law.

Matt
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Good point. Better get a high gain RFID tag in the number plate to
make it work properly and avoid cloning.

A

 

Well, millions of them can't be trusted to keep to 30mph in urban
areas - even areas with speed camera warning signs prominently
displayed, and speed cameras dressed in fluorescent yellow.



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Often they revert to the original pre-light traffic flows, where one
route dominates teh though traffic, and another route gets backed up.

i.e. the situation the lights are often put there to ameliorate in the
first place.

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