Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. David

    Gawnsoft Guest

    While walking on the pavement, you're something like 300 times more
    likely to be hit by a car than to be hit by a bicycle. (in the UK).


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    Gawnsoft, Aug 12, 2004
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    Paul Weaver Guest

    Same in Greece, I spent a summer working there commuting about 10 miles
    every day down from the mountains (and back up at 3AM). Everybody uses
    scooters in the med. Probably as they are just jump on and ride - noone
    wears a helmet, they're treated more as bikes.
     
    Paul Weaver, Aug 12, 2004
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  3. David

    Paul Weaver Guest

    Given the number of cars is more then 300 times the number of bikes, you
    are more likely to be hit by a specific bike then a specific car.
     
    Paul Weaver, Aug 12, 2004
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  4. David

    Paul Weaver Guest

    Can't you just fly?
     
    Paul Weaver, Aug 12, 2004
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    TomTheKraut Guest

    .... except for those cyclists who get run over by numpty cage drivers...

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    Velvet Guest

    I think you'll find the majority of those killed in falls on pavements
    are the elderly.
    Crawl back under your bridge.
     
    Velvet, Aug 12, 2004
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    Mark Hewitt Guest

    Cycling isn't any more dangerous than walking! I know I've cycled for years
    and never had a problem. As for needed a shower.. rubbish! Unless the route
    to the station is up a seriously large hill then 5 miles is nothing most
    people should be able to complete that distance without breaking into a
    sweat. Your only issue might be if it is raining, but in that case you can
    buy a lightweight plastic raincoat to wear over your clothes.
     
    Mark Hewitt, Aug 12, 2004
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    Slider Guest

    According to the stats, yes. However as most of the bike-pedestrian
    interfaces are unlikely to be reported, and as they don't have insurance
    companies to deal with, the stats are probably a bit wrong.
     
    Slider, Aug 12, 2004
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  9. Some of them are very old.
    Back under your bridge, laddie.

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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 12, 2004
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  10. Source of that factoid? I have seen estimates of up to 50 million adult
    bicycles in the UK. There are over 5 million childrens' bicycles alone, so
    unless the number of cars has increased dramatically in recent weeks the
    figure of 300 is Clearly Bollocks [tm]

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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 12, 2004
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  11. As others have said, no it isn't and no you won't. Plus, if you get a
    Brompton, you can take it on the train and bypass the tube strikes :)

    5 miles is no distance on a bike. I used to ride 7.5 miles from Reading to
    Henley every day, and it was quicker than driving, because I could park the
    bike in the office. No showers, I used to keep a wash bag and a towel under
    the desk but if you shower before you leave, even a fairly brisk ride is not
    a problem.

    And what would be the problem with showering once you got to work anyway? I
    shower every day, it doesn't make any difference to me whether it's at home
    or the office, really.

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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 12, 2004
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  12. I ride about 5,000 miles per year and drive less than 3,000. My average
    journey speed around town is significantly faster on the bike than in the
    car. I pay vehicle excise duty on my car, but choose to leave it at home
    and reduce congestion. So, you are wrong in every important respect :)

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    University
     
    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 12, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    And most of the bastards are in my shed.
     
    sweller, Aug 12, 2004
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  14. Nah - the real wierdoes are the ones who /drive/ into London every day from
    Reading!

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    Just zis Guy, you know?, Aug 12, 2004
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    Tony Raven Guest

    Yep. A further 1-2 pedestrians are killed by cyclists on the road.

    Tony
     
    Tony Raven, Aug 12, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Jeezus, you'll be asking us how you should wipe your arse next.
     
    Ace, Aug 12, 2004
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  17. David

    Peter Clinch Guest

    Only especially dangerous if you ride it badly, though that doesn't
    resolve the parking issue.
    The dangers of cycling are terribly overstated. It is, in fact, really
    quite safe if you bother doing it sensibly. Read "Cyclecraft" by John
    Franklin for how to go about negotiating the roads safely on a bike, and
    in the meantime read
    http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1582 to give a more
    realistic idea of the dangers.

    Cycling is only sweaty if you're in a hurry and/or toting big loads. So
    don't do either, and you wouldn't need a shower.

    5 miles on a bike is reasonably fast, even if you're /not/ in a hurry,
    and it needn't be dangerous. It's also good for you. My neighbour
    bought a folding bike to replace a drive on slightly shorter commute,
    and even though he bought a moderately expensive one (a Brompton folder,
    which you could easily take on the train with you and use at the other
    end, and park under a desk at work to remove security worries) at £468
    he reckoned it had paid for itself in purely financial terms within a
    year. See http://www.bromptonbicycle.co.uk/

    Pete.
     
    Peter Clinch, Aug 12, 2004
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    Tony Raven Guest

    Slightly more than the number of pedestrians killed by cyclists but over
    a hundred cyclists a year are killed by motor vehicles.

    Tony
     
    Tony Raven, Aug 12, 2004
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  19. Be careful, that can be dangerous.

    Colin
     
    Colin Blackburn, Aug 12, 2004
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  20. Neither of these solution are dangerous, if you perceive them as
    dangerous I'd suggest that you have not got enough practical experience
    of either to really make a wholly accurate judgement!

    And don't most car parks have motorbike/scooter/moped parking areas, too?

    Later you talk of making this journey at 6-30am - if you cycle summer
    isn't going to make that much difference to your being sweaty at that
    time of the morning. Indeed, you're probably going to be less sweaty as
    you'll be in a well-ventilated T-shirt rather than a waterproof/warm
    fleecy/goretex/etc top.

    I'd suggest cycling it for a while and seeing, you might be surprised. 5
    miles isn't too far once you get used to it and so long as you don't
    start treating it like a time trial, just as a means from getting from A
    to B, you might well not become as hot and bothered as you think. (And
    you'll have burned enough calories off to actually justify that pastry
    with your coffee on the train :)
     
    chris harrison, Aug 12, 2004
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