Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David, Aug 11, 2004.

  1. I see two different situations. I see cyclists stopping at reds, getting
    impatient and going whilst its still on red. I see drivers going
    though on amber because it's just turned to amber when they got
    to the line and they are unable to stop their car safely.

    You're probably going to call me a hypocrit, which is fine.
    I'm aware that I break some motoring/driving laws often.
    And no-one gets hurt. The cyclists who go through on reds
    probably think the same. Maybe I should just accept that
    I'm guilty of 1984-esque doublethink and shut up.
     
    William Grainger, Aug 13, 2004
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  2. I understand that it's actually about 299 792 458 metres per second,
    which is distinctly finite. Some laws supercede even traffic law :)

    A
     
    Ambrose Nankivell, Aug 13, 2004
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  3. Outside London, the car generally couldn't be ticketted for parking on
    the pavement.

    A
     
    Ambrose Nankivell, Aug 13, 2004
  4. David

    Jon Senior Guest

    I don't see a problem with that.
    I'd rather not weigh my bike down with bits of plastic, but I would
    happily see them stopped by the police... as long as they also do the
    same to drivers who can't understand what the green tarmac with "Bus
    Lane" written on it is for.
    Wow. To repeat the question that you started to ask in another post,
    where do you cycle? Until I took to taking a whole lane whenever
    possible, I used to get overtaken with a clearance of centimetres (And
    not very many of them either!). One morning the same idiot overtook me
    three times, waiting each time for a pinch point in the road.

    Another memorable occasion was the guy who tried to overtake me on the
    corner through a junction, was forced to brake because the line I had
    taken did not allow enough room for his manouver, and then pulled
    alongside me further up the road and proceeded to give me grief for not
    cycling on the extreme left hand side of the road.

    These are two major events, but being overtaking with no room to spare
    forms a normal part of my daily cycling.
    Try moving to Edinburgh where you'll find the tables turned. ;-)

    Jon
     
    Jon Senior, Aug 13, 2004
  5. Actually, a lot of the value for money has been taken out of the NHS
    in the period of Blair's government. There may have been some
    improvement in services, but not commensurate with the extra 60 odd
    percent that's being spent on it.

    A
     
    Ambrose Nankivell, Aug 13, 2004
  6. David

    AndrewR Guest

    A lorry driver's cruising up the M1, window open enjoying the summer breeze.
    He sees a biker coming up behind in his mirrors.

    Next thing he knows a voice next to him says, "You got a light mate?"

    The lorry driver looks and there's the biker; he's taken his crash helmet
    off and to reach the window he's standing on the bars of his bike, working
    the throttle with his right foot and he's got a fag sticking out of his
    mouth.

    "You mad bastard!" shouts the lorry driver, "You're going to kill yourself!"

    "Nah", says the biker, "I only smoke 5 a day".

    BOOM! BOOM!


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    AndrewR, Aug 13, 2004
  7. David

    Tony Raven Guest

    You raise a very real problem for cyclist - a large percentage of
    traffic lights (not just road work lights) do not pick up the presence
    of a bicycle. It means you either have to wait for a car to arrive and
    trigger them or set off cautiously to cross them on red.

    Tony
     
    Tony Raven, Aug 13, 2004
  8. David

    Tony Raven Guest

    The speed limit is still infinite even if you cannot reach it because of
    other limitations - just the same as the speed limit on a dual
    carriageway is still 70mph even if your 50cc motorbike cannot go that fast.

    Tony
     
    Tony Raven, Aug 13, 2004
  9. David

    Jon Senior Guest

    Play fair... Metal frame, two wheels. It's a bike... so what?

    Though I agree that it doesn't look particularly ugly. It's certainly
    nothing compared to Renault's strange habit of giving all their cars an
    arse!

    Jon
     
    Jon Senior, Aug 13, 2004
  10. David

    Jon Senior Guest

    Encountered a set of these for a metal bridge between Perth and
    Blairgowrie (Or Blairgowrie and the campsite, I don't remember). No
    amount of waving arms would trigger the lights, and the bridge was a
    little too narrow to comfortably risk jumping the lights.

    Jon
     
    Jon Senior, Aug 13, 2004
  11. David

    Adrian Guest

    Gonzalez () gurgled happily, sounding much
    like they were saying :
    Would you drive across a red light in the same circumstances?
     
    Adrian, Aug 13, 2004
  12. David

    Adrian Guest

    Tony Raven () gurgled happily, sounding much like
    they were saying :
    Don't forget the weight savings to be made by stripping all this structural
    impact protection bollocks out of the average car.

    Weight saved = fuel saved, so it'd be better for the environment, too.
     
    Adrian, Aug 13, 2004
  13. David

    Gunga Dan Guest

    I don't think they do humour.
     
    Gunga Dan, Aug 13, 2004
  14. Ben wrote
    It is a bit short on pedestrians to target. You might find a niche
    there.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 13, 2004
  15. David

    Jon Senior Guest

    The difficulty with humour of that nature, when combined with the
    dryness of Usenet and a lack of smilies is that, that exact same
    impression _is_ believed by a number of people.

    Jon (Not yet bought the SPD sandals, but considering it; reads grauniad;
    has long hair; bearded <only when I forget to shave>; leftie. I think I
    may resemble that remark)
     
    Jon Senior, Aug 13, 2004
  16. David

    Jon Senior Guest

    I'm not particularly short, but I'd have needed stilts to reach the ones
    I've encountered.

    Does throwing things work?

    Jon
     
    Jon Senior, Aug 13, 2004
  17. David

    Velvet Guest

    Any traffic light that's set up to use it's detector can be made to
    detect a cyclist. Get off the bike, walk up to traffic light, wave hand
    toward and away from detector from about a foot in front of it (getting
    palm of hand closerto the sensor, not waving from side to side) and that
    will trigger the detector (unless it's faulty). Obviously don't do it
    too slowly, either - a good firm movement is what you need, and it's
    really not at all hard to trigger them.

    The exception to this is where it's faulty, or where they've not been
    configured to use the detector, in which case they are on the timers,
    and will change in time.

    I know this works, cos I have a city and guilds in conebreeding, and it
    covers signs and temporary traffic lights too :)
     
    Velvet, Aug 13, 2004
  18. David

    Gunga Dan Guest

    The Maserati is a bit of a mess too.
    Sheesh. The Aston is about as perfectly proportioned as you can get. It
    looks 'right' as a car but it would work equally well as an abstract
    sculpture. Beauty might be in the eye of the beholder, but some things, such
    as a sense of proportion are also innate [1] and mathematical. The Peugeot
    is a horrible caricature of the Aston. The length of the front overhang is
    what kills it. If it is meant to look like the Aston then I wish they hadn't
    bothered. At least the Fiat Multipla is unique and individual - as well as
    being ugly.

    [1] Admittedly I'm losing faith in this.
     
    Gunga Dan, Aug 13, 2004
  19. David

    Velvet Guest

    You've not spent anywhere near as much time on the roads as me then.
    I've seen more of those types than I'd like to, unfortunately.
     
    Velvet, Aug 13, 2004
  20. David

    DavidR Guest

    Do't know about you but I don't go around with a big mirror stuck in front
    of my car. For something that's only looked at when being washed, people
    seem to attach a disproportional importance to appearance.
     
    DavidR, Aug 13, 2004
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