Best way to travel 5 miles to a train station?

Paul Weaver () gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

That's excellent news. Thank you. I must have missed the announcement that
VED is now per person, not per vehicle.

I'm just off to send a few tax discs back for a refund, since I only
apparently need one to cover all my vehicles.

 

Yup, there's enough room for the average (not those rare double ones) pram
and pushchair

 

But if you think motorcycling is very dangerous then you will be much
less at risk riding a motorcycle than the average motorcyclist.

 

Just zis Guy, you know? () gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

Yet you seem not to see this differentiation between "scum in mobile death
greenhouses" and drivers. Most drivers are undoubtedly not scum.

I see far more cyclists in London flagrantly breaking road laws in ways
that put pedestrians at risk than I do drivers, yet I see far more drivers
than cyclists.

 

You've just covered two different points here though - a motor vehicle
driving along a pavement is dangerous, I would agree. Certainly more
dangerous than a cyclist doing same. But this is very uncommon. At least
if you discount incidents that are not connected with parking manoeuvres.

But a motor vehicle parked partially or totally on a pavement is not
particularly dangerous. (It might force people to take avoiding action,
perhaps forcing them into the road, but the vehicle itself is not
dangerous. But this is a different, albeit as serious, point.)

 

Just zis Guy, you know? () gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

Well, of course it does. There's a far lower chance of you being caught and
claimed against, as there's no way of tracing you since your bicycle
carries no legally required large unique identifying marks.

 

Tony Raven () gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

I think the mistake you are making is in missing the sarcasm implicit in my
earlier post.

 

There are none so blind.

Frankly in London there is just too much flagrant disregard for laws
left and centre from too many road and pavement users, I wouldn't want
to necessarily castigate one group any more than any other.

I would suggest though that a stupid, law-breaking car driver is more
likely to do more harm (and quite probably to more people) than a
stupid, law-breaking cyclist or a stupid, law-breaking pedestrian.

 

The problem is that the dead pedestrian can't contradict the concerned
car driver who says "Yes officer, he just appeared from nowhere, fell
over, and died." The police are well used to similar occurrences in
police stations and jails, and think nothing of it.

 

Cool, more tax it seems that I can claim back, this looks like my lucky
day. All that VAT I paid on my new bike last year was illegal, was it?
(To go with the income tax I shouldn't be paying as suggested elsewhere
in this thread.)

Nobody pays VED on a bicycle. I think you should have stopped at that,
before you made any mistakes.

 

chris harrison () gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Those incidents are usually merely a part of a bigger incident. Very few
cars are actually "driven on the pavement" voluntarily - it's usually
because they're in the throes of crashing due to some other cause - like
the driver being a maniacal cretin.

It may even be *safer* than parking completely on the road.

 

I believe you don't need to pay VED on bicycles, so get a refund on
any bicycles you paid VED on.

Not sure where I found that out, though.

A

 

You're also much less likely to need it (which is going to help make it
cheaper).

 

Actually it costs less mainly because there's far less chance of him
causing damage substantial enough for anyone to claim off him. But you
knew that anyway.

A

 

Best leave it to the professionals.

 

Ambrose Nankivell () gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Not always.

I own two bicycles.

One was bought used off a mate, so contributed nothing in VAT.

The other was bought *very* used at a scout bike auction, so contributed
nothing in VAT.

(URC - Anybody want a 50s ladies Hercules? I felt sorry for it, but it's
too big for SWMBO. It needs a bloody good clean up, two tyres and a gear
cable. Free to a good home, just off NW M25)

 

How is it in side winds? Especially sudden gusty ones, such as
when being passed by a pantechnicon in a side wind?

 

chris harrison () gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm just pointing out Guy's double standards.

 

I still have difficulty understanding how a push bike can be worth that
much. Aren't they kids' toys?

 

There's the problem. Your happy with 10 bikes. Most of these twats\\\\\
petrolheads think they are an abomination.

T