Best pre 84 street scrambler ?

So the proposed NHCA 'Forgotten Era' class will be (subject to
ratification at the AGM tomorrow:


1. Pre 84 four strokes
2. Pre 80 air cooled two strokes
3. No Monoshock machines
4. No wheels smaller than 18†diameter
5. No rims wider than 3.5 inches
6. All parts used must be “periodâ€
7. Pump petrol/diesel only
8. Solo motorcycles only
9. 10% of hill record time handicap for machines of motocross origin

No capacity allowances unfortunately, just a fastest time past the post
points system regardless of swept volume.

<looks at 350ish Morini and shakes head>

So what would make the basis of a good bike then?
A big twin, road bike based 'street scrambler' to avoid the 10% penalty
I reckon.

<fires up Ebay>


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It's got to be the latest clit bike on ukrm: a K series BMW.

I'll sell you mine after we've done the elefantentreffen if you're
interested?

 

Pete Fisher says...

XS650 or RD400

 

I suspect *you* could probably get up Shelsley quicker on it than I can
on the tart, but I was thinking of something less unwieldy.

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Hmm. An RD400 had come to mind, but probably too much of a collectors
item these days.

XS650 eh?
300190450448

What astounded me was the price of air cooled twin shock MX bikes.
Triumph twins are also outside the budget I had in mind.
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My CBX wiv a pair of enduro bars.

 

Someone rode one at Loton Park several times back in the early eighties.
Nice noise, shame about the pace.

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Early Morini Camel?

 

My lack of total commitment when cornering has to be made up by power.
As Lozzo hints, something like this would fit the bill very well:
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/ridesfiles/rides05020704.jpg
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Get Nigel to convert that yellow thing to street scrambler spec.

http://www.powerhousemotorcyclemuseum.com.au/dscf1772.htm

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus

Yellow no more, courtesy of Beav of this parish.

That's quite nice, is that.

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SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single"
Norton 850 Commando Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Jim Poole's Commando was king of the hill in its day. I still remember
the first and only time I rode one. I have never experienced anything
with such sheer grunt to this day.

Far too valuable though. I need an abandoned XS650 project. Mechanically
sound but cosmetically and road legally challenged.

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170185705601
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320209412801

 

I wouldn't go near an XS650. The engines are brilliant but the
handling wouldn't be up to the job.

They're too long and it doesn't matter which model you buy, you'll
always get a bendy frame.

 

I presume specials of a type that could have been built during the
period are allowed. Anyone got the dimensions for an XS650. Probably a
bit too tall for my cunning plan.

<gets out tape measure and heads for old greenhouse containing Morini
250 "rolling chassis">


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Hmm. See post re engine dimensions for a Yamorini.

42 BHP? The tuned 375 Morini is probably about that (once I have sorted
the ignition).
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Much modified XT500?

 

In communiqué <1iayhbw.1yb3epp1usslg8N%>,

Hmm. One was putting in pretty respectable times at Wiscombe last
September and it looked pretty standard.

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This one I'd agree with.

 

Andy Bonwick says...

If that's the case then a KLR650 would be an even better bet. Lighter,
better brakes, better handling, more power, more torque, cheaper to buy.