best and worst designs

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by R. Pierce Butler, Oct 18, 2005.

  1. R. Pierce Butler

    Ron Seiden Guest

    Re: > Wonder if that is why my Honda CB350 of the mid 60's scored and chewed
    up
    My early 70s CB500-4 needed its #1 cylinder's intake valve re-adjusted
    almost constantly (about as often as it got ridden, which wasn't all that
    much). Turns out that, even though the (steel) rocker arms were free to
    rotate on their (steel) shafts, the shafts were also free to rotate in the
    aluminum carrier. This resulted in the carrier journals wearing out very
    quickly. When I became friends with a master machinist, first he mumbled
    something about stupid design and then he took the whole assembly into the
    school where he taught machine shop and, with a pro-grade milling machine,
    put threaded holes in the sides of the rocker shafts, flats on the outside
    of the carrier journals, and inserted machine screws through to hold the
    shafts solidly in place (allowing the steel rockers to rotate on the steel
    shafts -- no more steel shafts rotating on aluminum journals). He was such a
    perfectionist that he even made threaded holes in the ends of the shafts so
    a screw could be threaded in to enable pulling the shafts out super easy.
    Once this modification was cinched down tight, no more problems with wonky
    valve adjustments...
     
    Ron Seiden, Nov 3, 2005
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    skimmer Guest

    It was about 1967. The parts counter guy at Bill Krause Honda in
    Inglewood showed me a bunch of replacement parts for early model
    Hondas. He said that Honda was farming out engine parts production to
    anybody who would build the stuff at a cheap price. One of the
    camshafts he showed me had a great big divot right in the middle of the
    lobe, but whoever made it shipped it to Honda and Honda's receiving
    inspectors bought it and exported it to the distributor.

    Sometimes stuff got mislabelledor got put into the wrong bin and got
    shipped out as the wrong part number. He showed me a piston for a
    Yamaha production road racer. It had a big square hole hand formed in
    the rear skirt of the pistonto feed a booster port that the road-going
    motorcycles didn't have.

    He said, "It looks like some kid cut a hole in the back of the piston!"


    Who knows, maybe Kenny Roberts did it when he was a kid...
     
    skimmer, Nov 3, 2005
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    The Real Bev Guest

    That is the most wonderful ride in the country. Capitol Reef to Mexican
    Hat and back again. I wish we'd had more time for Utah, but I don't
    think my Suzuki could even hit 90...

    Thank you for reminding me.

    --
    Cheers,
    Bev
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Little Mary took her skis upon the snow to frisk.
    Wasn't she a silly girl her little * ?
     
    The Real Bev, Apr 10, 2006
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