Bennets Insurance - Treat as Toxic

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Chris Reader, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Chris Reader

    Ace Guest

    Sounds like its similar to the Swiss system - you get a reminder a
    couple of months before the due date, with the renewal premium and
    exact level of cover all laid out, and have until the renewal date to
    decide whether to a) just let it automatically renew, b) change your
    cover with them or c) switch to another insurer.

    In the case of C) I believe that you don't specifically need to inform
    the old one, as it will initiate the production of a new vehicle
    license (reg. doc.), as it's only there that the insurer is recorded,
    with no certificate issued as such.

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    ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com)
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    Ace, Jun 25, 2008
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  2. Chris Reader

    Ace Guest

    In Switzerland it is taken as a legal proof, _even if you never
    actually received it_. So if it's, say, a summons or a final tax
    demand that you deliberately avoid picking up from the PO, you'll
    still be equally liable to the consequences as if you had received it.

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    ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com)
    \`\ | /`/
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
    `\|/`
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    Ace, Jun 25, 2008
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  3. Dans l'article <2f2b8e46-43df-4b6a-933b-
    >,
    écrivait...
    native? check.

    genuine? all family is from west of Algeria, near Moroccan border.

    intelligent? currently proud owner of several boxes of Guzzi pieces and
    one running 350 Jawa.
    Perhaps it will change in frogland with the moving of the mail/letter
    business from state-operated to private (already done for parcels).

    IANAL but I can see that we'll then need to use "Huissier de Justice" or
    lawyer service: mucho dinero and PITA.

    But what do I know, I'm just a thickheaded tightfisted Guzzisti.
     
    Francis Chartier, Jun 25, 2008
    #23
  4. Chris Reader

    des Guest

    I do believe that I've already requested that you leave off Cab.

    D.
     
    des, Jun 25, 2008
    #24
  5. Same here. It is the "Date de première présentation" that is legal
    proof.
     
    Francis Chartier, Jun 25, 2008
    #25
  6. Chris Reader

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Interesting. I think in the UK that it is certainly strong evidence,
    and in some cases it may be taken as legal service of documents
    (summons, etc)[1] but when I was taking legal action against a
    particularly irritating **** and produced a sheaf of recorded delivery
    slips for the demands I'd sent him, and which he denied ever
    receiving, the court told me that if he'd signed for them, then he'd
    received them, but if he said he never saw them it was for me to prove
    that he had. They drew a distinction between *sending* a recorded
    delivery item and *receiving* it.

    Interestingly, I see Germany makes a similar distinction:

    "If service is effected by recorded delivery letter with
    acknowledgement of receipt, the acknowledgement of receipt is
    sufficient as proof (Section 175, second sentence, ZPO)." (http://
    ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/serv_doc/serv_doc_ger_en.htm) In other
    words, proof only if the letter is signed for.

    Whereas in the UK, ordinary post is deemed sufficient for service of
    legal documents. Well, well.[1]

    [1] Paging CT and other lawyers
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 25, 2008
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  7. Chris Reader

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Oh dear, another faux Froggie ;-)
    Don't diss the Mighty Jawa. This was mine:

    http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/images/Jawa.jpg
    <Small voice>

    I like Guzzis too

    </small voice>
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 25, 2008
    #27
  8. Chris Reader

    M J Carley Guest

    ITYM: `thickheaded tightfisted Guzzista'.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 25, 2008
    #28
  9. Chris Reader

    des Guest

    I believe it has to do with the 'status' given by the respective
    countries to their 'fonctionnaires'. I don't think that postal workers
    here are 'assermentés' (=~ 'have sworn an oath'); we teachers certainly
    aren't, but in general if the postman says that he deposited the 'avis
    de passage', then a court will take the postman's word over the pleb who
    says he never received it.

    D.
     
    des, Jun 25, 2008
    #29
  10. Chris Reader

    des Guest

    It all depends, though. In TOG's weird, ever-so-slightly fucked-in-
    the-head world, if you came to whatever country you live in before you
    were five, then you get to call yourself the nationality of that
    country.

    'course, that means that Israel's current President 'isn't really
    Israeli', and that one of the France's most influential post-WWII
    Presidents 'isn't really French', but well ... no one ever accused TOG
    of being rational. Especially where I'm concerned ... which is what
    all this is about. :)

    D.
     
    des, Jun 25, 2008
    #30
  11. Chris Reader

    M J Carley Guest

    But, Des, that's what *you* say: you are `French' because you spent
    time there as a child and because you have moved there as an adult.
    Admittedly, you abandon this rule when it suits you (Wolfe Tone was
    not Irish enough), but it is your stated rule.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 25, 2008
    #31
  12. Chris Reader

    des Guest

    I think you'll find (if you bother to look back), that I base my
    nationality on a little more than some holidays here as a child, plus a
    move here eleven years ago ...
    Yeah, yeah ..

    D.
     
    des, Jun 25, 2008
    #32
  13. Dans l'article <a33bf9e6-925b-4f8f-91ec-
    >,
    écrivait...
    <ma_vie>
    Algeria was french, a few members of the family were native algerian
    (and considered themselves Kabyles rather than Algerian) even if more
    were french, born in "Départements français d'Algérie" or not.
    So I am a french citizen, even if from a cultural point of view I am
    Nice.
    Too clean to be a real Jawa (Photoshop?), but nice. :)
    My V11 Sport
    http://francis.chartier.free.fr/V11s/2.0/V11S_2.0_01.jpg

    My 1000 Strada when I got it.
    http://francis.chartier.free.fr/Strada/Alternateur.jpg
    http://francis.chartier.free.fr/Strada/p6160124.jpg
    http://francis.chartier.free.fr/Strada/Bobines.jpg
     
    Francis Chartier, Jun 25, 2008
    #33
  14. Chris Reader

    des Guest

    Not according to TOG, you're not.

    Heh. It's great when his crap comes back and bites him on the arse. :)

    D.
     
    des, Jun 25, 2008
    #34
  15. Chris Reader

    M J Carley Guest

    Looked back, couldn't find it. What's your definition?
    I still find it hard to believe that any Irish republican would
    consider Wolfe Tone not Irish enough.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 25, 2008
    #35
  16. Chris Reader

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Interesting. There's a difference between being a 'French citizen' and
    being 'French' IMHO, and as you imply, a lot of it is cultural. And I
    don't even know what Kabylian is.

    <Googles>

    Well, I'm damned. Never heard of the place, but it looks fascinating.

    Cheeky bugger. It was very, very clean at the time, though. Oh, now that is nice.
    <snip hard-to-load pictures of old Guzzi>

    I always liked the 1000 Strada as a back-to-basics Guzzi. Just an
    update on the T3, really.

    My wife's V50, circa 1986

    http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/images/v50.jpg

    And my Spada, same date

    http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/images/spada.jpg
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 25, 2008
    #36
  17. Chris Reader

    M J Carley Guest

    Camus is very good on it. There is a nice collection of some of his
    writings from Algeria which has coverage of life there.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 25, 2008
    #37
  18. Dans l'article <a84c3396-eeb7-4d59-97c9-49fb5d1fd503
    @b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
    écrivait...

    Mine is constantly leaking oil from heads, exhausts, oil pump, carb,
    etc.
    Apart from that it is rather pleasant to ride, for a pre-glasnost value
    of pleasant.
    The engine is quite different with bigger valves and domed pistons, and
    PHF36 with accelerator pumps. It is more a 1000S (VN first series, not
    the Dell Orto 40mm one) disguised as a basic tourer than a T3 slug. :)
    Nice bikes the V50/V65.
    I had a 1984 V65C that I sold last year to rebuild the Strada, I miss
    it.
     
    Francis Chartier, Jun 25, 2008
    #38
  19. I didn't realise that it was modeled after British bikes of the 50's,
    60's and 70's..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jun 25, 2008
    #39
  20. Chris Reader

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Or even BMWs from the 21st century.....
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 25, 2008
    #40
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