BBC Website: "Your Reaction to Margaret Hassan's Murder"

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nigel Eaton, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Nigel Eaton

    Lady Nina Guest

    Takes your breath away doesn't it.
     
    Lady Nina, Nov 18, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    I thought that was just Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
     
    Ace, Nov 18, 2004
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    Whittingham
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    There's a nugget of sense there.

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    Wizard, Nov 18, 2004
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    Whittingham
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    Nice!

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    Wizard, Nov 18, 2004
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    Wizard Guest

    A different issue. And the men on the ground didn't make the decision to
    go there.
    Again, a different 'they'.
    Again, a different 'they'.
    Some don't.

    Has Saddam Hussein been forgotten so soon?

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    Wizard, Nov 18, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    The U.S. Army which they are a part of.
    The U.S. Army
    The U.S. Army
    Apparently. But then Saddam didn't kill as many of his own people in the
    10 years running up to WW2.5

    Nothing like as many as The U.S. Army have since anyway.

    They should **** off home, they've killed too many civilians.

    As usual, wherever they go.
     
    tallbloke, Nov 18, 2004
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  7. I think you should consider the Iraqi casualties in the Iran-Iraq war,
    which Saddam launched.
    Every army does, Live with it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 18, 2004
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  8. Ben, you are sounding more and more like a good friend of mine :) who
    just wasn't the same after adding a sociology degree course to the Law
    degree course they were doing, because the Law degree course only
    occupied them for half of the week.

    I was relating the fact that several of the Gatsos in Norfolk had been
    burnt down. But they were only in a revenue generating position.
    Implying that it therefor didn't matter.
    The reply was:
    "It doesn't matter they were there generating revenue.
    What would you do if someone burnt down something of yours."[1]

    My response that if, what ever it was of mine that was burnt down was
    mugging people, it probably deserved it; was not met well..........

    [1] It was that line that reminded me.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 18, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    One should recognize that there are a lot less UK troops over there, so
    statistically they should make fewer ****-ups. Also, they've generally
    been deployed in less hostile areas.
     
    Verdigris, Nov 19, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Verdigris bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
    lines of:
    Very true, but I don't think that the professionalism of the UK forces
    should be underestimated.
     
    Cab, Nov 19, 2004
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    DannyBoy Guest


    I would love to see Bush and Blair in those Orange Boiler Suits.

    They find it easy to kill tens of thousands of people for reasons they
    hide from the world and their own parties. Let's see if their blood
    lust by proxy is as appealing when their lives are forfeit.
     
    DannyBoy, Nov 19, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    (DannyBoy) wrote in
    Yup. The Hague beckons.
     
    tallbloke, Nov 19, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's a good thing, right?

    Of course, the point I'm making is that it's pretty rich to behave
    badly (illegally invade another country) and then complain that people
    behave badly towards one (suicide bombs and mortar attacks).
    Nice.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 19, 2004
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  14. They got better after a while, I think it was the combination of degrees
    they were doing.

    ie:
    If is result of a legal decision it must be right.
    If it is written down it must be right.

    My response would be along the lines of :
    Legal decisions are not always based on correct judgements or are a
    compromise.
    Legal decisions are written down.

    Therefore it isn't necessarily correct if it is written down.
    Agreed.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 19, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    Certainly not, by jingo!
     
    Verdigris, Nov 19, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    <G>
     
    Cab, Nov 20, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    Or in the case of the civilians trapped in Falujah, die with it.
    What's your stance on the war in Iraq TOG?
     
    tallbloke, Nov 20, 2004
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  18. Apparently the US marines blocked off the city and told everyone to get
    out, except they didn't let out men over the age of 15 and less than 50.
    They had to stay in the city.

    If they tried to get out they were zip-tied and sat in a row while some
    Iraqi guy says yes or no and they were released or put into detention.
    As there is a lot of infighting and getting your own back, Iraqi males
    don't want to take a chance on this.

    Also while the US are giving cover to the Iraqi troop they are looting
    all the good stuff left in the place. Some Iraqis think it is better to
    stay in their home to protect their belongings from the Iraqi soldiers.

    Source:
    http://www.kevinsites.net/
    http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

    Gives you both sides of the story.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 20, 2004
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  19. We shouldn't be there. The sons of bitches lied in order to start a war.
    Democracies don't do that. Blair and his bunch should be out of office,
    and out for good.

    Unfortunately, that probably won't happen. They're more likely to lose
    the next election on the hunting issue than the war.

    As for the war itself - the septics are fucking it up, as ever. The
    Brits are caught in the middle, as ever. But at least we have some idea
    of how to fight a counter-insurgency war.

    Incidentally, is anyone watching that end of Empire series? Last night
    was Aden. Next week is Palestine. Absolutely superb, and also depressing
    to see that the lessons learned in Aden have been forgotten.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 20, 2004
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  20. The Evil One is most dangerous when masquerading as faithful and
    righteous.

    A quote from the Bible I think.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 20, 2004
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