Battery charging with UNmounted battery?

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by oldgeezer, May 16, 2006.

  1. oldgeezer

    oldgeezer Guest

    Hi,

    A newbie to the group, but not a newbie on bikes.

    Almost all manuals I ever had (except my vintage beamers)
    told me to unmount the battery before charging it.
    The manuals tell me that charging the battery while mounted
    could blow out the rectifier diodes.

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    In my opinion, that warning in the manuals only is there
    because a cheap charger will put out (say) 50 Volts
    whenever the battery itself is totally defective. (A good
    battery acts as a zener, limiting the max voltage.)
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    Am I correct?

    BTW: I can set my charger to any max voltage I want
    plus any max current I want, so I figure that unmounting
    the battery is not needed because I set the max voltage
    slightly below the voltage of a fully loaded battery and the
    max current to 10% of the batteries capacity, which makes
    the whole thing become a trickle charger in the end, because
    the current gets lower when I reach the max voltage.
    Note: I am not talking about spilling acid and such.

    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, May 16, 2006
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  2. oldgeezer

    Don Fearn Guest

    Get a Battery Tender and don't worry 'bout it. My Battery Tender
    charges all my motorcycle batteries in situ with impunity; that
    includes motorcycles from the '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s, and '00s . . . .

    -Don (no '90s motorcycles anymore -- gotta fix that)
     
    Don Fearn, May 16, 2006
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  3. In theory. In practice, I've not known it happen.. That said, I tend to
    disconnect the battery before charging, myself. It's not like it's a
    hard job.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 17, 2006
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  4. oldgeezer

    oldgeezer Guest

    Thanks for the reactions.

    Like I tried to tell, I have a professional charger that is
    over-voltage protected and current-limited, so I am not
    afraid I would fry a diode.

    I usually take my battery off the bike when I
    charge it, which is easy to do. The only reason I
    take it out is that then I can watch progress.
    By the way, I drive the bike so often that I
    cannot remember when I last charged my battery.
    If it needs charging, then it normally is at the end of it's
    lifespan.

    I only wondered why all manuals state: 'Take it out,
    otherwise you may blow out the diodes.'

    I could only think of one reason:
    (A charger capable of putting out a high Voltage,
    plus a battery that is in fact an open circuit, so that
    you may put a too high Voltage over the diodes).

    I just wondered if I missed out any other reason things might
    go wrong.

    I've been driving for almost 50 years now and never blew out
    a diode. So I am not afraid that that might happen.

    I only was curious, 'Did I miss any other reason?"
    Most likely not.

    Thanx again.
    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, May 18, 2006
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  5. oldgeezer

    oldgeezer Guest

    You refer to the same people that put stickers on a cigarette
    lighter, that warn that the flame is hot. You may be right.

    But I've read so many manuals cautioning about diodes that
    I started to get puzzled. Not worried though.

    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, May 18, 2006
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  6. I used a hunk of threaded stainless, double nuts
    on one side of the - terminal and a wingnut on the
    other to make a quick disconnect for battery negative.
    Takes only a couple of seconds to disconnect or
    reconnect the battery.

    Also slopped lots of red paint and tape on the + terminal
    and cable to protect against those occasional pesky brain farts.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, May 18, 2006
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  7. oldgeezer

    oldgeezer Guest

    Wingnut is a perfect idea. On the negative terminal, but read below!.

    Brain farts do exist, I know, as I once burnt up a spanner
    (and my hand) because I forgot that the old English bike (I
    think it was a BSA) had the positive terminal connected
    to the frame.

    Another Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, May 20, 2006
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