Basic newbie question: no laughing please

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Old and a bit slow, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. I love watching m'cycle racing more than any other racing, but I was
    embarrassed recently when a colleague asked "do those MotoGP bikes use
    regular foot-lever sequential gears with a bar-mounted clutch lever?"
    and I was not sure how to answer --- I can hear Rossi and co. changing
    up and down like blazes, and I watch the handlebar-cam, but can anyone
    say in simple language whether MotoGP gears are significantly
    different in operation from a regular road bike?
     
    Old and a bit slow, Dec 26, 2009
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    Andrew Guest

    They use Electric Quick Shifters, with a different gear pattern, but
    sequential yes, and a handlebar mounted clutch.
     
    Andrew, Dec 26, 2009
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    Dirt Guest

    Short answer, yes. Longer answer is that they most likely use a quick-
    shift assist so they don't have to use the clutch on the upshift. I'm
    guessing on the downshift, with slipper clutches, they grab a handfull
    of clutch, downshift all at once and let the clutch back out.

    -Chris-
     
    Dirt, Dec 26, 2009
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  4. Thank you guys --- as far as I can see, now googling. a quick-shift
    kills the engine when you tap the gearchange for an upshift, so no
    clutch is needed? It's not a mechanical "power assist" for actually
    engaging the gearsets?
     
    Old and a bit slow, Dec 27, 2009
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    sturd Guest

    Old and a bit slow asks:
    That's correct.


    Go fast. Take chances.
    Mike S.
     
    sturd, Dec 27, 2009
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    Alexey Guest

    To be sure, there's nothing particularly special about their stuff.
    Quickshifters and reverse shift patterns are very common in racing in
    general, including club racing. You can buy all the parts off the
    shelf (the right kind of engine management like Power Commander, a
    special shift rod and sometimes a special shifter linkage) and do all
    the work yourself with some wrenches and a lap top in a few hours in
    your garage. It's amazing what modern technology gives us. The fancy
    stuff and frame not so easy to get your hands on in MotoGP (besides
    the engine) includes things like quick-disconnect brake lines, carbon-
    carbon brake rotors, exotic gases used to fill the tires, exotic
    materials for everything including titanium fasteners, brake levers
    adjustable with rider's left hand, etc. And yet, motorcycles aren't
    all tech, even at that level. I believe when the 990's first
    appeared, Rossi rode around for a while with a simple rubber band used
    in place of a return spring on his rear brake pedal.
     
    Alexey, Dec 28, 2009
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  7. I think that's why I love to watch m'bike racing: pure, simple,
    understandable. I am more impressed by a well-engineered SIMPLE
    design than by a shed-load of space-age gadgetry (F1 cars --- clever,
    but yawn). Two weeks ago I was looking at a lovely [dented!] 500 Manx
    Norton in a display, and telling the exhibitor that, for my money,
    that was the purest racing bike. The French author and aviator
    Antoine de Saint-Exupery ("The Litle Prince") once said that a design
    has reached perfection NOT when there's nothing more you can add but
    when there's nothing more you can take away.
     
    Old and a bit slow, Dec 29, 2009
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