Bandit Good news/Bad news

Good
I found the source of the annoying rattle fron the front end of the
bike. The RHS bar-mirror is rotating but when I touch it with my
finger it stops and so does the rattle.

Bad
The knuckle of my gear selector 'fell out' last week and yesterday
started it full time and did it no less than three times on the six
mile journey to work.

Angle 1: <http://www.bgn.me.uk/bike/b6/gear1.jpg>

The gear selector attached to the foot peg connects to that long rod
so when you push the pedal down or up it changes gear.

Angle 2: <http://www.bgn.me.uk/bike/b6/gear2.jpg>

There's a knuckle on the back of the gear selector pedal that goes
into the round rubbery bit on the rear end of the rod which now falls
out.

I took it apart at work today and can't see anything missing, but
there is something that I assume was rubber in there at one point and
a round washer (although it could equally be described as a circle
wire) which isn't quite continuous anymore.

I went to Alford Brothers during my lunch today and described what was
happening and they informed me I'd need a new gear selector unit as
the bit I need that goes on the knuckle isn't available separately and
it would cost me about £39 new including VAT but excluding fitting.

I haven't ordered it yet, but it's due for a service in a week or so
anyway but do you have any suggestions as to what is missing from what
knuckle joint thinger? Is it just a piece of rubber?

 

No, pull the rubber back and you should see it's metal on metal.

 

Oopps hit send too early....

What you should see is one bit that is bowl shaped, and another bit that
it ball shaped and sits inside the bowl, the 2 shouldn't pull apart.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, BGN

What you need is a rose joint and IIRC the last one I bought was about
three quid.

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I pulled it apart yesterday at Rod's place and extracted a load of
dirt which could have been perished rubber or just shit from 8 years
on the road.

It is metal on metal but the two pull apart and come apart of their
own free will. Which begs the question, how did they get them
together in the first place?

 

BGN says...

Sounds like you need a new gear lever and knuckle. They do wear out,
mine's really sloppy now and I expect to have to replace it or repair it
at some point in the near future.

I'd be a bit concerned about how close your chain runs to the centre
stand if I were you, it looks like it's touching it and picking up all
the nasty gritty shite that's sitting round there. The chain looks
awfully shiny and dry on the inside of the side-plates and rollers,
considering the huge amount of gritty old chain lube kicking around
everywhere else. Mine always looks dark and wet in those places, not
clean and shiny like yours.

 

Looks like the result of a scottoiler turned up way to high, if you ask
me.

 

I'll get a new one ordered shortly then.

The centre stand sits higher up than normal due to the aftermarket
exhaust. From inspecting SeanH's pipe there's a little bit on which
the centre stand normally rests which is lacking on mine now.

I do have to agree on the chain being gritty and horrid looking. I'm
going to clean it this week (promise!) and get rid of some of the shit
that surrounds it.

I use chainsaw oil in the Scottoiler and when it ran out of oil that
centre of the chain got all dark and dirty but as soon as I filled it
up again the centre went all clean and shiny so the Scottoiler is at
least providing enough lubrication to make a difference when it has
oil in it. True, it's on the 'minimum' setting still from summer when
the oil got so warm it started to drip out of its own accord.

Infact, I think I'm going to clean it now.

 

It's on the minimum setting. I'll get some 'proper' green stuff when
it's serviced to see if that does any better. If not then perhaps a
nozzle has fallen out sometime.

 

<snip>

You need to get that stand to sit a bit lower in the up position. As Loz
said, it's too close to the chain.

I had the same problem when I changed the can on my old CB500, and had to
change the bump stop on the new can for the original one off the old can.

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Just a long shot. A similar kind of ball and socket joint on the gear
linkage is used on some Italian bikes and the Voxan. In this case there
is a wire retaining clip that stops the ball coming out of the socket.
Wondering if the 'circle wire' BGN describes is such a clip with the
long bit broken off.

Worth having a look at a parts schematic ?

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Oooh! Pretty! Sparkles! After nearly 50 minutes I've got it looking
like this:

<http://www.bgn.me.uk/bike/b6/chain.jpg>

 

I don't have the original can so I'll have to mention it to my local
Suzuki dealer should I take it there for a service in the middle of
t'month.

 

Thank you and yes, I did decline it at the time.

A few colleagues have bandits so I'll have a look at where the little
thinger is on them. I assume any garage will be able to strap
something to the exhaust in the right place for a minimal fee.

 

Strap? It's a bit of metal - it just needs welding on and having it's
rubber blob re-attached. Ask anyone with a welder in exchange for a few
pints.


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Get a rubber door stop and screw it to the fucker with a self tapper.

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Easy, it's nothing more than a push together (with technique) ball joint,
but when they start falling apart, it's time to change them, because they're
fucked.

It's entirely possible you could get a new gear lever from a cappers though,
rather than spend 40+ quid.


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He hasn't layed eyes on this one yet.