Well guys I finally got a bike, unfortunatly wasnt quick enough for a zzr (they tended to sell within hours for a half decent one!!) but found a suzuki bandit 250 in the paper and ended up getting it. its a 2000 model (not a import) with 19,000 on the clock got the guy down to 3grand so think i did ok? included a pic here [URL]http://home.iprimus.com.au/daniel54/bike.jpg[/URL] Cheers guys, Daniel