Bandit 12 Running Costs.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by danny_deever2000, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Hopefully someone who's owned a B12 before may be able to answer the
    following:

    What's a pair of tyres for a B12 gonna cost?
    How long are they likely to last in non-hoon mode?

    Same questions for the chain.

    Does the exhaust rot or is it all stainless?
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 31, 2005
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  2. danny_deever2000

    ogden Guest

    150-230 quid, depending what you get and where you get them.
    Pass. I only ever got through one set properly (spent a year as a
    puncture magnet) and never really rode it in anything but hoon mode.
    Depends how well you look after it.
    Hahahahaha.

    The collector will rot like a motherfucker, and Motad replacements
    are about 300 quid. The end can will last forever, because it'll
    only make an appearance once a year at MOT time.
     
    ogden, Aug 31, 2005
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  3. danny_deever2000

    darsy Guest

    depends on what you put on it. Somewhere between 150 and 250 quid.
    ISTR paying ~190 quid fitted for 010s, but that was 6 years ago. It
    probably takes similarly sized tyres to my 'blade though, and a pair
    for that generally costs ~220 quid for Rennsports (not that I'm
    recommending Rennsports for a B12)
    Rear, 5000 tops, front, maybe 9000. But, drop a couple of thousand
    miles of those figures if you buy sticky tyres, or give it any sort of
    beans.
    I was on the original chain when I wrote mine off, can't remember the
    mileage, but it was about 10,000.
    Dunno, didn't seem to in the time I ran it, or in the 6 months it sat
    broken in my back-garden before it went to the scrappy.

    On the whole though, including the above and servicing costs, a B12
    isn't a "cheap" bike to run.
     
    darsy, Aug 31, 2005
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  4. danny_deever2000

    Eddie Guest

    Oooh, that reminds me: anybody want an Art titanium end can for a
    Bandit? Not marked with "NOT FOR ROAD USE", but also not marked with any
    fancy "e" symbols either. Might be considered loud by some, but it
    depends what you're used to.

    Also available:
    - pair of stock end cans for an Aprilia Falco (in very good condition);
    - Road-legal Arrow oval end can for ZX9R, with removable baffle (may fit
    other bikes) - includes original Arrow-branded box!

    All this, and more, at "Eddie's Exhaust Emporium", coming Real Soon Now
    to an eBay page near you, if someone ever extracts their digit.
     
    Eddie, Aug 31, 2005
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  5. Is there an alternative solution to the Motad? On Divvy 9's you can
    just get a new collector box.
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 31, 2005
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  6. danny_deever2000

    ogden Guest

    If it's the one I think it is, are you sure it doesn't have it
    stamped on the end collar? Or have you polished it off?
     
    ogden, Aug 31, 2005
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  7. danny_deever2000

    ogden Guest

    The Bandit exhaust comes in three sections. Downpipes and collector,
    link pipe, and silencer. The collector and link pipe will corrode
    together, and eventually rot through.

    You could fit a bellypan, which might keep some of the crud off...
     
    ogden, Aug 31, 2005
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  8. So the down pipes and collector are one part and will have to go in the
    bin together.....

    WTF do they make them like that. ;-(
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 31, 2005
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  9. danny_deever2000

    Mark Guest

    <danny_deever wrote:
    :
    : What's a pair of tyres for a B12 gonna cost?
    : How long are they likely to last in non-hoon mode?
    : Same questions for the chain.
    : Does the exhaust rot or is it all stainless?


    1.Around £150-£200 fitted to loose wheels
    2. I'm on my 9th set (2001 model 1200 S) and they have varied between 2000
    miles (Metz Sportec M1) and 4000 miles (Bridgestone 020 / Avon Azarro
    AV45/46). I tend to replace as a pair but generally add a few thou to the
    above.
    3.About 13k with a Scottoiler
    4. Stainless but rots at end (not stainless). A decent exhaust fitter can
    weld on a new piece of stainless for £20

    Budget for some braided brake lines and some sintered pads (I find EBC work
    well) as it's a heavy beast to slow down.

    Mark
     
    Mark, Aug 31, 2005
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  10. Eddie wrote
    I want a can that is marked "THIS CAN CAUSES CATTLE TO MISCARRY"
    anything else is just pointless.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 31, 2005
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  11. danny_deever2000

    Muck Guest

    In the bin? These days, they've got something called welding...
    wonderful it is.
     
    Muck, Aug 31, 2005
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  12. Mate, this is *exactly* the information I was looking for.
    Thanks.
     
    danny_deever2000, Aug 31, 2005
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  13. danny_deever2000

    Neil Guest

    Built in obsolescence = more parts sales.
     
    Neil, Aug 31, 2005
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  14. danny_deever2000

    speedgazebo Guest

    I bought a pair of Maxxis after reading a few posts here for £100 of ebay
    and paid 20 to get them fitted and balanced, A trip to, and a few times
    round the Nurburgring and thay are shagged, not a good economy, and they are
    crap in the wet, never again. The oe originals lasted 8,500 miles.
    The chain I concur, just coming up to 10,000 and it needs replacing.
    The exhaust dissolve in the wet, read my previous posts ( Rustb Bandit
    Exhaust parts I and II)
    Does about 40 mpg
    Would agree that it's not the cheapest bike to run but a lot less than a big
    sportsbike.

    Nick
     
    speedgazebo, Aug 31, 2005
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  15. danny_deever2000

    Pip Guest

    The OE Michelin Macadams do indeed last forever - this is because the
    compound used is akin to black concrete and the wet grip they
    grudgingly provide is similar. The only tyres I've ever binned with
    usable tread on and not regretted so doing, even for a moment.
    The OE chain is made from knicker elastic coloured gold. A goldie
    lookin' chain indeed, and about as useful. 10k is a good result -
    I've heard of them stretching beyond redemption by 4k and the average
    life is no more then 8. I changed mine on my first Bandit (bought
    used, with few miles) at about 6k as I'd run out of adjustment.
    Eventually. Some get more than others - I suspect it depends on the
    type and frequency of use as well as storage conditions but about five
    years seems to be the norm before the nasty little mild steel link
    piece disintegrates. Easily fixable.
    You ride like a fucking girl. I've never seen better than an average
    30mpg and would be concerned if I did. That's an average over 20k
    miles on the first, '99 bike. 25 mpg was easily in reach and 22 was
    about the worst I ever got.
    Bollocks. Costs slightly less than a Firestorm or Blackbird, but a
    **** sight more than the likes of a ZZR11.
    A sig sep would be nice, just above your name.
     
    Pip, Sep 1, 2005
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  16. danny_deever2000

    Lozzo Guest

    Pip says...
    We proved this when I was running a 10 year/40K mile old ZZR1100C2 at
    the same time that Pip owned his first B12, which was 2 years old and
    low mileage to start. We were doing comparable mileage but the ZZR
    required quite a bit less in consumables and fuel.
     
    Lozzo, Sep 1, 2005
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  17. danny_deever2000

    Pip Guest

    Depends what you want, but these are about as cheap as you're going to
    get:
    http://www.fwr.co.uk/pairdeal.htm
    Depends what you fit: stickies don't last on the rear - I'd use Avon
    45/46 or Bridgestone 020s and expect 5 - 6k on the rear, mebbe 8 - 10k
    front. Having said that, I've put over 4k on the Avon rear on my
    RF900 which is more powerful and nearly as heavy and definitley not
    ridden in non-hoon mode and there's only barely 1mm of wear and 6mm of
    tread to go.

    I'd go for the Avons. Excellent life, more grip than the 020
    especially in the wet, when it counts. Slightly odd 'weave' at very
    low speeds, but you get used to that.
    Get a good chain. DID O ring minimum and keep it lubed, preferably
    with a Scottoiler and 15k is possible.
    Answered elsewhere. Nasty, silly bit of mild steel linking collector
    and link pipe - fixed by Banditmania for 180 quid or your local
    friendly stainless-capable welder for beer money.

    The Bandit 1200 should be available to all on prescription - they're
    good for the soul, man.
     
    Pip, Sep 1, 2005
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  18. danny_deever2000

    Eddie Guest

    As if I'd do something of that nature. Officer.
     
    Eddie, Sep 1, 2005
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  19. danny_deever2000

    Eddie Guest

    I'm sure that could be arranged: I've got a set of letter punches and a
    big 'ammer to 'it 'em with.
     
    Eddie, Sep 1, 2005
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  20. Adrienne M Bonwick, Sep 1, 2005
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