Balancing Act

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Intact Kneeslider, Nov 2, 2003.

  1. Just in case John L's having a dull day at work...

    ....why do inline-4's with 180-degree crank phasing need a balance shaft?

    The way I can picture it to myself, primary balance is taken care of thanks
    to one pair of pistons rising when the other two are falling, and secondary
    thanks to one pair of rods swinging backwards when the other pair are
    swinging forwards.

    Does the imbalance arise from the fact that the pistons falling from TDC are
    moving faster than the pistons rising from BDC, or is there more to it?

    This question should also be used by Manning as an indication of how that
    engine CGI I'd offered to do for him is progressing...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Nov 2, 2003
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  2. Intact Kneeslider

    Moike Guest

    Wouldn't have a clue!
    Sounds reasonable.
    Eh? Wouldn't you need a really flexible crankshaft to achieve that?

    Moike
     
    Moike, Nov 3, 2003
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  3. Nope. It's a direct consequence of the piston-conrod-crank arrangement,
    which causes the piston motion not to be sinusoidal.

    It takes about 5 minutes to show that piston speed as a function of crank
    position is given by

    v(theta)=(s/2)sin(theta)(1+(s/2)cos(theta)/sqrt(l^2-((s/2)sin(theta))^2)

    where s=stroke, l=conrod length, and theta=0@TDC.

    For theta=[0, Pi/2] (piston leaving TDC) and [3Pi/2, 2Pi] (piston
    approaching TDC), the cos(theta) term is positive, which means that the
    correction to the simple sinusoidal is greater than 1, and for theta=[Pi/2,
    3Pi/2] (piston approaching and departing BDC), cos(theta) is negative,
    making the correction less than 1, so at a given angle in the second and
    third quarter of a crank revolution, the piston travels slower than at the
    corresponding angle in the first and fourth quarter.

    Weird, huh?

    Thinking further, the imbalance cycles twice per crank revolution, first
    when one pair of pistons is approaching TDC, then when they're leaving TDC,
    then when the other pair takes its turn to do the same... problem redressed
    by having a balance weight spin at twice crank speed (weight swings upwards
    when there are pistons leaving TDC, downwards when there are pistons
    approaching TDC).

    Answered my own bloody question there...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Nov 3, 2003
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  4. Intact Kneeslider

    Goaty Guest

    Never a dull day ...

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, Nov 3, 2003
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  5. Intact Kneeslider

    Red ZZR11 Guest

    Awwww, you just wanted to show off. Did pretty good too :)
    ****, now I'm confused.

    Red ZZR11
     
    Red ZZR11, Nov 3, 2003
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  6. Intact Kneeslider

    John Littler Guest

    Gotta love a scientist, didn't even have to answer him :)

    The above sounds right - it's a secondary imbalance which can be bearable
    if left unbalanced - hence the traditional inline 4 "buzz". That italian
    website I posted ages ago had a heap of stuff on it.

    If you send me a valid email address I'll send you a PDF you'll love (the
    iprimus address is valid - the deja one isn't )

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 3, 2003
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  7. Intact Kneeslider

    Knobdoodle Guest

    'cause God hates UJMs too!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 3, 2003
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  8. Intact Kneeslider

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Ooh ooh; 'cause UJMs are jus' UNNATURAL; that's why!!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 3, 2003
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  9. Intact Kneeslider said....

    IK> Does the imbalance arise from the fact that the pistons falling from TDC
    IK> are moving faster than the pistons rising from BDC, or is there more to
    IK> it?

    Elastic conrods, perhaps?
     
    Martin Taylor, Nov 4, 2003
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  10. Intact Kneeslider said....

    IK> It takes about 5 minutes to show that piston speed as a function of crank
    IK> position is given by

    IK> v(theta)=(s/2)sin(theta)(1+(s/2)cos(theta)/sqrt(l^2-((s/2)sin(theta))^2)

    Er, shouldn't there be an apostrophe just here...^?

    IK> Weird, huh?

    Not the word that I would've used....
     
    Martin Taylor, Nov 5, 2003
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