Backfires

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by PeterT@Home, Nov 13, 2005.

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    PeterT@Home Guest

    My bike (K75S, 1988) seem to do a lot of backfires. What could be the
    reason and how do I sort it out?
     
    PeterT@Home, Nov 13, 2005
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    Shep© Guest

    On 13 Nov 2005 00:34:44 GMT If you fall from a tree,leave your anger
    1st thing I look for with,"Backfires" are exhaust leaks.Most common
    cause IMHO.
     
    Shep©, Nov 13, 2005
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    Shep© proposed
    How do you find those? Plugging the back [1] and watch where the smoke
    comes out?

    [1] well, not completely of course
     
    PeterT@Home, Nov 13, 2005
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    deadmail Guest

    Wet your fingers and wave them around the exhaust pipes.

    If it's anything like the K100s I've had... you will need to soak the
    exhaust nuts in plus gas for a couple of days, heat the nuts red hot and
    hammer an under-sized socket onto them to get them off without shearing
    an exhaust stud.

    Another common place for leaks is where the header pipes meet the
    collector box.
     
    deadmail, Nov 13, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    Yup, that happened to mine, didn't blow at all it just backfired
    occasionally. Quite good if a cage was following too close :)
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 13, 2005
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    Dan L Guest

    ISTR a tale from a regular poster here (possibly Prawn or Weggy) of a
    backfire resulting in a london taxi being torpedoed by a silencer off a SOB.

    SWK may be along to confirm this.

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)

    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
     
    Dan L, Nov 13, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    Excellent.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 13, 2005
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    Dan L Guest

    Hah, found it.

    It was Buzby on UKRMC:
    http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk...d68c8a634?q=torpedoed&rnum=1#6e54661d68c8a634


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    Dan L (Oldbloke)

    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
     
    Dan L, Nov 13, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    K100s were known for the odd backfire - I'd guess that K75s were the
    same.

    Having said that, mine only did it very occasionally on the overrun
    above 2000rpm. Below this is where the FI cuts back in. The idea is
    that above 2K on the overrun the injection switches off completely to
    save fuel and increase engine braking; the side effect is virtually
    pure air getting to the exhausts, rather like an exhaust leak.

    If it does it excessively then as others have said, probably an air
    leak to the exhausts, probably near the cylinder itself. I *think*
    this is because the bounced negative pressure waves are at their
    strongest here and more air gets sucked in as a result.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 13, 2005
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    Buzby Guest

    Buzby, Nov 13, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    <points at unsnipped post and stripped out attributions>

    Sort it out Buzby, eh?
     
    Pip, Nov 13, 2005
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    Shep© Guest

    On 13 Nov 2005 01:54:20 GMT If you fall from a tree,leave your anger
    The old trick is to get an old towel/piece of heavy cloth and soak
    it/Damp it with water.Then wrap it around any of the areas you suspect
    or the pipes and joints area by area and rev the bike.If you find an
    area you have got this around and the backfiring stops or lessens,then
    you have an area to address.

    This does not however discount other possible causes but is a quick
    and easy,"Troubleshooter" :D
     
    Shep©, Nov 13, 2005
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    Suze Guest

    Oops. I followed a SOB along Marleybone Rd/Westway on Friday night that
    was backfiring about eavery 30 seconds or so. Reading this has made me
    realise I should probably have gone passed him rather than staying
    behind.

    Certainly gave the cagers something to think about! ;-)
     
    Suze, Nov 13, 2005
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    PeterT@Home Guest

    Shep© proposed
     
    PeterT@Home, Nov 14, 2005
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