back to the Ducati cup days

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Big Bird, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. Big Bird

    Big Bird Guest

    Well,

    First round of the 08 SBK has been run and it looks like a return to the
    Ducati cup days.

    2nd race and, although a 1098 (or should I say 1199) didnt win, the
    model filled 6 of the first 7 places. Not bad for a completely new
    motorcycle...and a one/two in the first race to boot.
     
    Big Bird, Feb 24, 2008
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  2. Not exactly that simple, though... in a number of ways, the weekend's
    races were a bit strange...

    How would race 1 have panned out had Haga not highsided himself when
    he took his left hand off the bar to shake his fist at Biaggi?
    What's going on with the Suzukis when it's a couple of what are
    normally midfield runners - Max Neukirchner and Fonsi Nieto - being
    their top finishers?
    Was Honda's mid-pack finish due to the new Blade needing more
    development, or was that all the bike's always been capable of when it
    wasn't Toseland riding it?

    As the bunched runs down the start/finish straight by the leading
    group in both races showed, the Yamaha and the Suzuki, at least, still
    have more top-end than the Ducatis.
     
    intact.kneeslider, Feb 24, 2008
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  3. Big Bird

    Big Bird Guest

    The new blade certainly needs more development.
    My point is that for an all new motorcycle, its doing very well first up.
     
    Big Bird, Feb 25, 2008
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  4. Big Bird

    JL Guest

    Very true, but then they are fairly good at this by now, it's not like
    the 1198 is a huge departure from the preceding model, and the 1098
    was run in Superstock last year so they had a year's worth of
    development on it already.

    JL
     
    JL, Feb 26, 2008
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  5. Big Bird

    Big Bird Guest

    Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki also have many years of race bike building behind
    them but you dont see them filling 6 of the first 7 spots.
     
    Big Bird, Feb 26, 2008
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  6. Big Bird

    JL Guest

    Points to the 90's and early 2000's in motogp which could have been
    renamed the Honda Cup...

    Besides which the rules in WSBK have changed very little in the last
    10 years for Ducati until this year so they've been incremently
    improving what they had, and the 1098 isn't a particularly radical
    departure from the 999, the 06 to 07 R1 had bigger engineering
    differences. They spent a year in superstock getting the 1098 right
    and then they launched it - I'm not terribly surprised it's
    competitive - the MotoGP development R&D certainly wouldn't hurt
    either.

    The japanese may have more dollars to throw at this sort of thing but
    it's R&D that's a lot more thinly spread across far more model types.

    JL
     
    JL, Feb 26, 2008
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  7. Big Bird

    Nev.. Guest

    ...and anyone who's seen the V8 supercars will have noticed over the past
    few years, if your car is just slightly better than your competitors,
    and you have 50% of the cars on the grid, it's very easy to dominate
    qualifying, race wins and turn the series into the "Commodore Cup".

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., Feb 26, 2008
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