Autumn 2004 French run

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by WorkTOG, Jun 21, 2004.

  1. WorkTOG

    WorkTOG Guest

    OK, I've found my tuit, and the autumn French Run will be the weekend
    before the EOSM: that is, Friday 3 - Sunday 5 September. Arrive
    Friday, depart Sunday, 2 nights as ever.

    Venue - probably the Ardennes. Still working on that.

    Costs - as before. Roughly ukp120-130 per head, based on 2 people
    sharing, including ferries and four-course dinner both nights. Booze
    extra.

    Small print: once I've confirmed the booking with the hotel and P&OSL,
    no refunds. Positively zilch. If you hand over your dosh and find you
    can't go, then too bad. Dinner is based on what I choose for everyone
    to eat. Special dietary needs (veggie, kosher, etc) can be handled but
    "I don't like fish" or "I only eat vegetables if they're stir-fried"
    will be treated with disdain.

    There may be some single room space available. Otherwise we're looking
    at a maximum of about three dozen. If the Ardennes hotel blows out,
    I'll find somewhere else: possibly somewhere we've been before. Max
    distance from Calais will be 200 miles.

    First-come first-served basis. Email me at chateau dot murray at dsl
    dot pipex dot com if you definitely want in. Not "I'm definitely
    interested" or "I think I can make that" but "Yeah, I'm up for this".

    For anyone who hasn't done a French Run - they can be quite fun.
    There's always someone to take the piss out of (Big Tony for his epic
    Petrol Muppet award, Prawn for breaking down and not flagging down one
    of the 20 bikes that streamed past him, Tim for managing to get
    stranded on the wrong side of the Seine, in full view of the hotel on
    the opposite bank, and no immediate means of crossing the river....)
    and the food and drink are usually quite good.
     
    WorkTOG, Jun 21, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Yes, though to be fair, P&O are more then happy to refund, even up to day of
    sailing.
    The problem was that the request had to be from you/needed original payment
    details.

    I, FWIW, don't view this in quite the same way as "I can't come, do all the
    work for me and get a refund".

    Anyway, lesson learnt, water under the bridge etc.
     
    dwb, Jun 21, 2004
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  3. WorkTOG

    Cab Guest

    WorkTOG bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
    lines of:

    I'll email you tonight, if all is okay and once I confirm that I can
    change the call out rota in work.

    --
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    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 21, 2004
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  4. I´m tempted. Quite a run from down here though. What´s the price for
    hotel only_ (damned spic keyboard) ?
     
    Paul Carmichael, Jun 21, 2004
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  5. WorkTOG

    Big Tony Guest

    Damn. No chance of another Petrol Muppet award as I am at a wedding that
    weekend. Someone else will have to keep score until next year.
     
    Big Tony, Jun 21, 2004
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    porl Guest

    Come with us you fooker. You're not old enough for a TOG run.
     
    porl, Jun 21, 2004
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  7. WorkTOG

    Ace Guest

    Sounds good - might make it up there - not quite as far as Normandy
    last year. Maybe one or two folks[1] might like to combine it with a
    second[2] party down here?
    Presumably you'll post again when you've got a definite venue in mind?
    I'll need to take advice[3] on this.


    [1] Looking at Adie, if she's reading.
    [2] For me, not neccessarily anyone who might come.
    [3] == get permission
     
    Ace, Jun 21, 2004
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  8. WorkTOG

    Ace Guest

    Mmm, so that's the following weekend, is it? I might be tempted.
    I doubt it. Certainly not for me, going in the opposite direction, as
    it were. Oh, you mean you'd be sticking around in France for all that
    week? Possibly, then. Check with TOG.
     
    Ace, Jun 21, 2004
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  9. Hell, I´m almost as old as the man himself. I´ve been on several
    TOGTours already. And you know perfectly well, I´ll be in England when
    you´re jollying out here.

    Back to the pool.
     
    Paul Carmichael, Jun 21, 2004
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  10. <emailed> you should know about my food awkwardness by now.

    --
    Adie
    (replace spam with nickname to reply)

    UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/

    Triumph 955iSS / GSF600 bandit
    MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22
     
    Adrienne M Jenn, Jun 21, 2004
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  11. I asked them. I emailed them. I got no reply and no refund. Life is too
    short to spend my time chasing somebody else's ****-up, or somebody
    else's problem, so I didn't bother after that. If you have a problem
    with that, tough shit.

    That should be clear enough for anyone contemplating coming in the
    autumn.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 21, 2004
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  12. No
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 21, 2004
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  13. WorkTOG

    dwb Guest

    One phone call was all it took me. Email stuck me as an utter waste of time
    <shrug>

    As you say though, tough shit, but duly noted - lesson learnt.
    Indeed - don't injure (aka '****-up') yourself, or have anything totally
    unexpected happen to you because it's "tough shit".

    BTW, is booking it in your company's name good for tax reasons, or just
    handy? ;-)
     
    dwb, Jun 21, 2004
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    If it is, and there's a room free, Pat and I will stay the Saturday
    night only. It's the last day of our fortnight round western France
    and the Pyrenees and we'd planned to stop overnight in or around the
    Ardennes en route to the Amsterdam ferry.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jun 21, 2004
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  15. All my correspondence with POSL is done via email with one particular
    person who puts together the tickets for me. The occasional phone call.
    But mainly email. Phone calls often entail waiting ages....
    Look, if this were a profit-making venture or anything like that, then
    fine. I'd shift heaven and earth to sort it. But it isn't. All I do is
    book the feries and arrange a hotel reservation for people, negotiating
    (I may add) a bloody good price for both.

    I have a helluva lot to do. I have people dropping out at the last
    minute, people promising they're coming and then deciding against it at
    the last minute, people moaning because they're not coming and they
    think they are and that "definitely interested" should mean to me that
    they are. The last one was supposed to be the Ardennes.

    We had too many people said they were coming for the hotel to
    accommodate, so I switched it to a hotel that could handle the larger
    number, in not quite such a nice location. But after people had stopped
    faffing around, the numbers dropped and it turned out we could have all
    got into the hotel in the Ardennes after all.

    I'm sorry if someone's forced to drop ,out at the last minute. I will
    apply for a ticket refund (although in the past POSL has charged a ukp35
    fee for that and the ticket itself this time was only 52 quid IIRC), but
    if POSL forget, or screw up, or whatever, as seems to have happened this
    time, I simply am not going to chase it. I'll try once, as I did, but if
    I don't get a result, I'm not going to get sucked into trying again, and
    again, and again, for whatever reason.
    I don't have a company. All bookings are made in my name. I use my
    office address as the address to which tickets should be sent because
    they come in a very big envelope which won't fit through my own
    letter-box. As I'm always at work when our postman arrives, this means
    either that large post gets dumped on our doorstep or I have to go down
    to the PO to retrieve it. Having it sent to my office gets round that.
    If you have a point to raise with that, do so Otherwise, this exchange
    is beginning to irritate me rather. So that's my last word on it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 22, 2004
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  16. WorkTOG

    Ace Guest

    you expect me to read?
    Thanks for the offer, but if I do come over to the UK during that week
    I'll prolly look up my mate in Leicester and my family in Derby.
    Yeah, I guess. TBH I didn't really give it that much thought when I
    posted it. Now I've got to work out whether I can take two weeks off
    for biking stuff this year before I can commit any further. Gotta find
    some good holiday to send Jude off on, then I'll be OK :)
     
    Ace, Jun 22, 2004
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  17. WorkTOG

    Eddie Guest

    The Older Gentleman wrote:

    Heh-heh-heh... "When DFVs Explode!"
     
    Eddie, Jun 22, 2004
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  18. WorkTOG

    dwb Guest

    Indeed, I kind of expect a "**** off", not a fully detailed explanation...

    :)
     
    dwb, Jun 22, 2004
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  19. WorkTOG

    WorkTOG Guest

    All right - look, I've emailed POSL *again* today. If that produces
    results, well and good....

    If not, then consider yourself in receipt of a "**** off" ;-)
     
    WorkTOG, Jun 22, 2004
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  20. WorkTOG

    dwb Guest

    Jeez.. I can't get this one off the hook...

    But thanks :)
     
    dwb, Jun 22, 2004
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