Article: Drivers blamed for biker crashes

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Jason, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. Jason

    Jason Guest

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/04/1088879372882.html
    Drivers blamed for biker crashes
    By Melissa Marino
    July 5, 2004

    New research shows drivers, not motorcyclists, are responsible for most
    crashes involving motorbikes and other vehicles, a motorcycle insurer says.
    Based on an analysis of all claims received over the three years to last
    year, Swann Insurance general manager Duncan Brain said motorcyclists were
    not to blame in 68 per cent of accidents in Victoria where they and other
    vehicles were involved.
    Nationally, more than 9100 claims showed that 70 per cent of accidents were
    caused by the other driver, according to the research.
    Mr Brain said the findings sent a clear message to all drivers to be aware
    of motorcyclists, to check blind spots and to ensure it was safe when
    changing lanes.
    The results are in contrast to Victoria Police research released in March
    that said motorcyclists were responsible for 64 per cent of accidents
    involving other vehicles.
    The police research was based on fatal or near fatal accidents from April
    2002 to May last year. It showed alcohol and drug use as well as speed were
    key factors contributing to serious motorcycle accidents.
    Mr Brain said motorcyclists needed to understand the risks associated with
    riding.
    "By their nature, motorcycles are relatively exposed compared to cars, so
    it's important riders remain vigilant, anticipate risks and above all, take
    care of their bikes," he said.
     
    Jason, Jul 4, 2004
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:50:38 +1000
    The difference being, I suspect, fatals compared to all crashes.

    In that the fatals have a higher incidence of alcohol and higher speeds,
    which does tend to indicate risk taking.

    And why fatals are a bad measure really...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 5, 2004
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  3. Jason

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    How do those results look when you take out drunks, unlicensed, and open
    road solo crashes?
    I'm interested to see how the average licensed, sober rider fares in
    comparison.
     
    Uncle Bully, Jul 5, 2004
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  4. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:46:06 +1000
    I think there are stats on the mccofnsw.org.au/roadsafety site, but from
    info on the Australian Transport Safety Bureau site, the answer is that
    they fare quite well.

    <rummage rummage>

    Here we go
    http://www.atsb.gov.au/road/pdf/mgraph27.pdf

    The risk of fatality per distance travelled
    for responsible motorcycle riders was
    53% lower than when the high-risk group
    was included. For every 100 million
    kilometres travelled, on average 5.25
    responsible riders were killed. This rate
    is still high, reflecting the exposed
    position of motorcycle riders, but it also
    demonstrates to what extent a minority
    high risk group contributes to the overall
    calculation of risk.

    So half the riders killed were unlicenced or drunk (or both) but sure as
    hell that isn't the proportion in the riding population!

    That's risk of dying, rather than whose fault it was you karked it.
    That monograph doesn't really address at fault in that way, doesn't
    really divide the crashes into fault, rather than goodguy/badguy biker.

    IT does say:

    Around 41% of multiple vehicle crashes
    were the fault of the motorcycle rider and
    42% were the fault of another road user.
    In 12% of cases, both road users were at
    fault.
    In multiple vehicle crashes where the
    motorcyclist was judged to be at fault,
    excess speed was a factor in nearly
    half of the cases. Drugs were a
    contributing factor in one in eight
    cases.

    I expect "drugs" includes booze.

    I also note:

    The typical responsible motorcycle rider
    killed in a single vehicle crash was a
    relatively inexperienced rider who lost
    control on a bend on a rural road, while
    riding too fast.

    The monograph points out that young inexperienced riders seem
    over-represented in the stats, "responsible" or no.


    In 1992 and 1994, a total of 76% of
    fatalities involving responsible
    motorcycle riders occurred in multiple
    vehicle crashes.
    The average age of these motorcycle
    riders was 29.6 years. Like the
    responsible motorcycle riders killed in
    single vehicle crashes, 42% of these
    motorcyclists were aged under 25.


    It's not clear if the Vic Police were using the same criteria as to who
    was "at fault" as Swann do. You'd think so, crashes having to be
    reported and all, but maybe the insurers make their own minds up from
    the evidence presented, and maybe aren't so quick to note "excessive
    speed" as cops are. And might have a different idea of "excessive
    speed" especially at intersection crashes - was a guy on the Qld riders
    list ages ago who was employed by an insurance company to use a radar
    gun to monitor speed in various areas, presumably so they can get an
    idea of how much people were lying on their claim forms...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 5, 2004
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