Art or design, which is it?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lozzo, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
    always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
    lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 13, 2004
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  2. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman says...
    They don't go that much better than the 1800 though, and weight
    distribution is all fucked up because of the really heavy cast iron 6
    cylinder engine. The alloy V8 engine weighed about the same as the cast
    iron 1800, so the already doubtful handling wasn't affected too much. BL
    really fucked up with their version of the V8 because they unnecessarily
    oversrung and overdamped all the suspension to allow for the V8.
    Costello was far more subtle in his approach.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 13, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) struggled
    to ejaculate:
    Fuckawful thing, the MGC. The B motor was a heavy old lump, the V8
    was huge but at least most of it was alloy - the C had a dinosaur iron
    six that weighed shitloads and was hardly quicker than the 1800 four.
    Way too much weight over and in front of the front axle,
    neccassarily rock-hard front suspension = recipe for disaster. They
    were infamous for going straight on round corners, or straight over
    roundabouts - literally, I mean.

    I can think of five Cs that met their end in hedges and walls after
    failing to negotiate bends - two of them took mates with them to the
    great scrapyard. Awful cars.
    It took BL to take a shite car and make it twice as bad.
     
    Pip, Nov 13, 2004
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    Christofire Guest

    Christofire, Nov 13, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Christofire says...
    I don't like modern art.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 13, 2004
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  6. Lozzo wrote
    There was **** all wrong with the handling on my B. Set against its
    contemporaries it was really rather good.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 13, 2004
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  7. Pip wrote
    Piss easy to work on, all you need is small hands. I have got small
    enough hands to be able to change the starter motor without lifting the
    engine. So there.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 13, 2004
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  8. "You have a woman's hands, my lord...."
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 13, 2004
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    mb Guest

    Aah, a connysewer.
    I did, vay interesting. I like the V12 Kawasaki Z 1300, or is that a Z2600?
     
    mb, Nov 13, 2004
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  10. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Small commercial lump, afair. Abysmal performance for the size of it.

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    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 13, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    platypus, Nov 13, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    He does, indeed, have it badged as a Z2300.

    Not a KZ, 'cos he's not a Septic.

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    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Nov 13, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Of course. The one in the garage with my 400 Four.[0]
    I haven't driven a V8.
    They are just cute little cars to tool about it.


    [0] Lozzo, see, I was paying attention.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 14, 2004
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  14. Lozzo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    They're cute, and the spares are plentiful, and they're cheap, and the
    hark back to a simpler time, a time when...

    (cont'd p94)
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 14, 2004
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  15. Lozzo

    Ben Blaney Guest

    It's not mine. Yet.

    I am into classic cars, though.
    heh
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 14, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ben Blaney says...
    It's the very British shape and the sound of one throttling off with a
    standard exhaust that does it for me. In reality I know they're a pretty
    crap car to drive, but that doesn't put me off wanting one. It's a bit
    like owning classic bikes. They don't do anything anywhere near as well
    as modern bikes, but you just love riding them.
    Good man. Go easy now, or you'll pick up a 'sad' tag, like mine.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 14, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Exactly. There are all sorts of classic vehicles I'd like to own.
    The good news is that they're all so cheap - relatively speaking. One
    of the things I'd like is a Morris Oxford/Austin Cambridge. Don't
    know why.
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 14, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ben Blaney says...
    All ended up on banger tracks, which makes them a bit hard to find now.
    Back in 1981/2 our old bike club had a Cambridge as a support vehicle,
    we nicknamed it the Battlebus. When it met its demise we scrounged a
    very rusty and ratty MK1 Lotus Cortina to replace it. We hand painted
    that hammerite black and abused it until it blew to bits, before
    throwing a 1600 Kent engine in.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 14, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    Art

    Because as a design it's heavy, vulnerable and inefficient.
     
    tallbloke, Nov 14, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Oh, neg.

    Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
    There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
    money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
    34,000 miles for 10K.
    heh
     
    Ben Blaney, Nov 14, 2004
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