Arnold 2008???

The history of all nineteenth century dictatorships revels the same soulless
mediocrity and disasters for people...

Don't you think that was their decision to make?
Yes... and the world waited...

Would you let

No... unlike the Greeks... better government is not an Iraqi export...

Why allow us to make that

You're not... it's up to free elections...

You're right... the majority are willing to fight against the minority bad
guys for what's right for Iraq... freedom... free elections... and peace...

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I disagree. To me, words and their definitions still convey important
things and need definition to mean anything.

Leaving it up to churches and all the different definitions they are
sure to come up with will only result in it becoming a definition so
broad it means everything and, ultimately, nothing.

Let the gay community run off all the charges of intolerance, bigotry
and whatever else they want. I think society should stop and consider
real, real carefully, before jumping, when it comes to this decision.

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Briefs??? really Jr Pudnocker... I haven't wore them since boot camp...

Better piss thyself laughing than having pee running down your leg from fear
of facing a knock at your door from some dictator's secret police...

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OK. Let's talk about children. Some are conceived in a loving and
enduring bond between two people of opposite genders, but many are not.
Half of all heterosexual marriages end in divorce, and it is not
unusual that divorcing couples will have children between them. These
children, too, are entitled to be cared for by adults who love them,
regardless of whatever DNA those adults and children have in common.

Single parenting is a lawful option, but it is often not a practical
one. Adults do bond together to rear children, and the bond between
those adults may be of almost any type at all, sexual or not,
genetically related or not. Those childrearing partnerships serve a
valuable social purpose and deserve some form of legal recognition and
protection. Yet we assign that recognition and protection exclusively
to marriage, which may or may not have any responsibility for child-rearing.

To bring this even close to topic, it's rather like the
single-occupancy HOV privilege instead of being assigned to motorcycles
being given to Hondas. Many Hondas are motorcycles, but there are also
Civics and Acuras which aren't. And there are Harleys and Yamahas
and... that function as motorcycles.

It may be going about it the wrong way (and it certainly would ruffle
some feathers) to call all two-wheeled vehicles Hondas in order to align
the social utility with the rights, privileges and obligations, but when
you are dealing with not one type of differential treatment but over
1000, the temptation to take that shortcut is hard to resist.

Rich, Urban Biker

 

Road Glidin' Don wrote:
[ snipped ]

We've already done this in the past. Polygamy is a valid marriage
definition in some religions, but the US has defined it to be invalid
and illegal. Marriage is constantly being redefined by those in power,
wether they be a religious power or not.

Hell, at one time, a man had to pay a price for his wife, and she had no
say-so in the matter (still happens in some places).

Marriage has always been redefined, including several times in the
bible, where polygamy was acceptable and then where it wasn't.

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There you go again. I have to educate a dumb liberal. I think you meant to
say that you are dumber than a box of rocks. Now go get an education.

 

That's the best response you have? Obviously Spanky knows he got his ass
kicked.

 

"X-No-archive: yes"

I challenge ANY husband to state that this isn't still the case - and
keep a straight face while doing so. And it sure ain't no "one time"
deal, either.

 

I didn't pay my wife's father a cent to marry her, which is what above
was about.

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My wife's father plied me with a lot of cheap bourbon as an inducement to
marriage.

 

"X-No-archive: yes"

You're being intentionally obtuse. Right?

 

"X-No-archive: yes"

Isn't hard to find a ring big enough to fit around the entry steps?

 

"X-No-archive: yes"

One bullet at a time.
Next question?

 

Of course, this is reeky, isn't it?

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If your wife is a working gal who generates her own income why would
you find yourself paying any price?

What you find is that there's twice as much money and you each spend
it on one another and enjoy a significantly higher standard of living
as a result. And since most marriages end due to financial issues, you
remove the primary stress in every relationship. You can save, invest
and retire together in style rather than having to make ends meet on
one income.

I pity the fool with the stay at home wife!

 

Don't pity me. My wife is a stay at home wife. I have no problem with
it. Yes, it would be nice to have additional income, but it's not
necessary. My wife would probably go find a job if she wasn't
babysitting our grandkids while our daughter is in school to become a
medical assistant, but I wouldn't force her to, that would be her choice.

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Yep they are going against Gods wishes as well. They are churches of
the world that cater to the world not to God. The world does not
belong in Gods house. They allow mans agenda to override Gods word.
Very wrong and any real Christian would find this appalling. Just
because society changes its views does not mean the church is supposed
to go along with it. It don't work that way.

Regards
Michael H. Fell

 

What an arrogant illinformed thick headed fool...YOU PRESUME
TO KNOW THE MIND OF GOD? Holy fucking bat shit! WHERE does
it say in the the old testament or New that you can't marry
a person of your sex? Come come, chapter and verse...I've
got a copy also.

That is because ALL churches are ment for man not god...when
you understand why this is true then enlightenment will be
yours. Until then...your a deluded fool.

How? There are ONLY 10 things you have to do...Leviticus
only applies to the priestly class of the jewish people.

Indeed any person claiming to know what god wants offends me
and should be burnt to purge them of their sins. For they
are not of god or gods people.

It always has...again your ignorance, hate and illinformed
attitude about the christianity and god show you for the
poltroon you truly are.

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And, in my reply to John, I stated earlier that I don't think this is
a matter that should be left to the churches to decide.

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