Armstrong in the woods.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by mark, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. mark

    mark Guest

    This morning I decided to see how an Armstrong (1) would cope with some
    snowy forestry roads (2).

    Going up was not too bad but then I had to come back down.
    I know next to bugger all about what you're supposed to do whilst riding
    off road but I have learned some things:

    Standing up on the bloody thing was hilarious (if you had been watching)
    it seemed to be much easier to handle the sudden sideways stuff whilst
    sat down...
    Trying to come down a hill using the engine braking results in far too
    much speed and then falling off or stalling
    Trying to come down a hill on the front brake does mean you come down
    the hill but at some point this will happen with you separate from the
    bike
    Using the back brake is best as long as you don't get cocky and try
    going past a certain speed then its back to tobogganing.
    Not much breaks off an Armstrong.

    I still haven't go the hang of starting it.
    From cold I make sure the things at the right point (3) every time but
    It just won't start until it chooses. It just seems to need an
    indeterminate number of kicks before you suddenly get a little 'try' and
    then you know it will start with just a couple more goes.
    It does only get started on weekends so maybe it was better when used
    daily.

    Stall it when it's very hot and you have to wait before it will start
    again.
    I wish I smoked because then I could have a fag while I wait. I don't so
    I pass the time trying to kick it back into life.
    Could the petrol be vaporising in the (hot) carburettor?

    The clutch seems to be behaving now I've got more time to play with on
    it.

    I'm at the point of thinking that life is too short and Imight buy an
    XT600 *E*


    1. New distanzia front, knackered metzeler rear. :)
    2. 2" of snow packed down where cars had been, all of it frozen
    solid......
    3. Easy to check by looking for the little white spot on the cam belt
    pulley
     
    mark, Nov 27, 2010
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    Nige Guest

    Good tip for riding stood up is grip the bike with your knees & balance by
    moving legs & body parts as you need to.

    N.
     
    Nige, Nov 27, 2010
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  3. mark

    mark Guest

    Should have tried harder at that.

    Did that a lot though.....

    :D
     
    mark, Nov 27, 2010
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Nige
    Learn that at t'Flappit, did you?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Nov 27, 2010
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  5. mark

    Nige Guest

    It's closed now, Nigel, but yep :)

    Awesome place in it's day...

    My C90 did well in all local quarries, which i was lucky enough to live next
    to...
     
    Nige, Nov 27, 2010
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  6. mark

    wessie Guest

    all of them? Did the council keep moving your caravan along or summat?
     
    wessie, Nov 27, 2010
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  7. Better balance and suspension stood up. Better chance of catching it
    slipping if sat down.
    Stand up. Put weight towards the back wheel (lean back- poke your bum
    towards the rear of the bike), try to avoid braking all the time, use
    engine braking. Brake where there is good traction (better
    traction...), don't front-wheel brake where the surface is loose and
    slippery. At least that's the essence of what I've been taught in a few
    days off road.
     
    stephen.packer, Nov 28, 2010
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  8. mark

    mark Guest

    I think I'm a lot of carb tweaking or an xt600 away from engine braking
    :)
    A decent knobbly would be handy too...
    I might go and have another go tomorrow. It'll be like riding on iron
    tomorrow though. -8 now......
    It was educational :)

    I'm off to see Mr Jones as soon as the normal stuff starts up again.
    He seems to be only doing the enduro training during the winter; makes
    sense I suppose.
     
    mark, Nov 28, 2010
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  9. mark

    zymurgy Guest

    Nice one.
    Now you're getting it :) It does take some getting used to.

    I have that box of bits together for you including the new carb I
    promised. I will be in the company of said box next week [1], so i'll
    get it in the post to you.
    It would have its good days and bad, but it *always* started.

    Cheers,

    Paul.

    [1] It's in England and I've been in Ireland and the USA for the last
    6 weeks ...
     
    zymurgy, Nov 28, 2010
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  10. I can really recommend that. I've been a few times to the normal
    off-road-experience, once to the off-road experience plus and have just
    done an enduro school. Enjoyed every day, even those where I've
    smacked myself around through stupidity.
     
    stephen.packer, Nov 28, 2010
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  11. mark

    mark Guest

    In message
    It's complete masochism (or possibly sadism on your part...)
    You totally hate the thing while it's not starting but it's *almost*
    worth it for the wave of pleasure when it finally fires up :)
    Ta :)
    Forgive my crappy memory as I.m sure you told me; did you ever play with
    the slow running on it?
    It really doesn't like being pootled about at slow engine speeds.
    It's true. If you kick it; it will start.
    Ah! I wondered what had happened to you ;)
     
    mark, Nov 28, 2010
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  12. mark

    ogden Guest

    wrote:
    I've only done it the once (as you know) but I thoroughly enjoyed it,
    despite leaving crippled.

    I was fucking shit at it, mind. But I'll be doing it again.
     
    ogden, Nov 28, 2010
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  13. mark

    mark Guest

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    This morning I went out, kicked it over 4 times with the ignition off.
    First kick with the ignition on it fired.

    It was -8, the twist grip was frozen solid and I burnt my fingers on the
    hot key after using a blowtorch on it thaw out the lock.
    I'm ordering it some trelleborgs this week and some of them studs....
     
    mark, Nov 28, 2010
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  14. mark

    zymurgy Guest

    Do I spy hate turning to love (or at least a grudging acceptance)
    here ;-)

    Oh, and keep half an eye on the oil level though, it does like a drink
    or two.

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Nov 29, 2010
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  15. mark

    mark Guest

    In message
    :D

    -11 here last night. Hasn't been started since Sunday morning (with no
    run out because of the frozen throttle). Quick go first thing this
    morning resulted in a non start.
    -5 here tonight and I thawed out the throttle. 4 swings, turn ignition
    on and wide open throttle. Bingo. :)
    I really do need to buy a suitable oil for it....
     
    mark, Nov 29, 2010
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