Are wing mirrors fair game?

Tcchh....Next thing, you'll wanna ban chicks from givin their fella a Rogan
Josh cruisin' the fast lane of the M6 at a ton forty!!. You fuckin' Safety
Nazis make me sick.

 

Oh, I forgot.. poor loves. I get ciggies in my face to keep used car
values high. Well that's ok then. ))

 

Round here, some folk tend to go from driving smoothly, to driving in
the gutter and swerving round drains.

Yeh, I hear you.

 

Been there, done that.

 

The Berkshire Ripper?

 

Oh FRO you self righteous twat.

More info required ....

Ovenpaa, did you rip it off by going for a gap which didn't exist ? or
by using bad judgement and not leaving enough room when passing ?

I'd definitely consider stopping if it was a misjudgement on my part.

If It was ripped off by someone closing lane 2a on me (which has
happened) or if I thought they hadn't left enough (reasonable) gap in
standing traffic, then fair enough, maybe next time they'll leave a
decent gap in traffic for us filterers (or not as the case may be

P.

 

Someone secured a place in history by writing:

Ditto

<snip antisocial / criminal crap>

 

*parp*

 

Sometime around Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:07:13 -0700, zymurgy babbled on about:

I tend to ride very defensively on something akin to a supertanker in
width and the ride home is a time to relax and consider the day, this
means if a gap does not exist then I just sit back and wait, in fact
skinnier bikes will often go past after I pull in. On the day in question
the traffic was crawling and I was watching a Merc on the left (big
mirrors!)I was aware of the car on the right (something small, older and
dark) yet I hit it, if he was closing the gap on me then it was very
subtle, because I was very suprised when it happened. In fact I even
doubted it had happened for a few seconds then stopped and looked back but
could not identify the vehicle.

I have ridden the bike enough to know how big it is, and being a BMW with
wide bars you do need a lot of space to get through, the widest part being
the large alluminium panniers. The bottom line is I would have had to put
the bars over the mirrors and the cylinder underneath to hit it, so feck
knows how it happened.

I spoke to the police again today and it has not been reported yet, nor
was there any glass the following day. So if it wasent for the scuff and
dent in my pannier it might not have happened.

I have been clouted by wing mirrors when stationary a couple of times
before and for a car to do that it has to be bloody close, in fact my
concern is my foot at that point.

 

I'd love to live in your fluffy world.

After being deliberately forced off the road by a cager, i've learnt to
ride a little more assertively.

Cheers

Paul.

 

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I thought those were called convertables.

 

Yeh, having a calm frame of mind helps too. Thankfully, not that many
people in cars are actually out to get you.

 

Not even to ensure its really dead?

 

'when brothers collide'

 

petrolcan says...

I don't fancy your chances if you and your brother collide

 

Heh, I'd be more worried if it were to be the brother's wife TBH

 

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In principle I know I should stop.

In practise I know I wouldn't (and haven't).

If someone did it to me when I was in my car I'd be reaching for the
glovebox.

I realise this looks hypocritical but it isn't really, it's just that as
far as *I'm* concerned what happens to me is more important that what
happens to any other fucker.

Well, that's pretty much it. It's tit for tat really. I've had several
offs over the years where the car's ended up fucking off. (Where I've
lost it on braking trying to avoid the car). I've had bikes knocked
over when parked a couple of times so if I bust a couple of mirrors I
think I'm still in credit.

Having said that I've not come close to busting a mirror recently; the K
series bikes seem to have a lot of 'presence' and are a fantastic tool
for motorway work (I guess people have some sort of memory of the shape
and associate it with police). 3 years (about 60,000 miles) of
high-speed (85+) filtering and one incident which was a road-rage thing
I foolishly got caught up in.

I did pull a mirror off a merc when filtering in (town centre) traffic
on the 9r once though- the soft luggage was wider than the bars. He went
ballistic and got a bit shouty and beepy (as I would have done). Never
heard anything about it afterwards though.

Thing that catches me with filtering is the narrow tyres on the K make
it 'slip' from side to side on white lines. This is 'interesting' when
between cars.

 

We're not talknig about clipping a mirror, which from me would get an
apologetic wave, we're talking about destroying it. I've done two: one when
I ripped one off with my pannier, which I gave details for and paid for, and
the other where an oncoming van veered into me giving me a nice little
bruised hand. The second I wouldn't have stopped for, but I didn't have to
because he caught up with me while I was checking the damage on my side and
we had a discussion about perspective.

Having said that I wouldn't expect you to stop, and I can't say I respect
your attitude, but it's you innit? It's hardly at the top of your list of
....hmm..."idiosyncracies" is it?