are we being overcharged for new BM`s

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Beefhooked, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Beefhooked

    Beefhooked Guest

    The upcoming release of the BMW F800GS in Australia has the base price
    estimated to be $16,750 AUS plus on road.
    In the US, who currency is very near ours at the moment, the base price is
    $10,520.00 US.plus on road.

    Does it really cost an extra 6 grand to ship these bikes to OZ? Or is it the
    extra complience required in Australia?
    Got to be an answer
     
    Beefhooked, Jul 24, 2008
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    Nev.. Guest

    Refuse to pay it.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., Jul 24, 2008
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    Damien Guest

    There's nothing special about BM's in this regard - those sort of
    pricing differences are pretty much across the board, and not specific
    to any single manufacturer. The base price of my bike (Yamaha) is
    AUD$16499, but it goes for a little over USD$10,000 across the pond.

    You need to keep in mind also that Australia is a pretty small and
    generally unimportant market on the world scene. That makes it a lot
    more expensive for motorbike manufacturers to do business here, which
    translates to higher prices and the sort of "oddity" that you commented
    on. There are no conspiracies at play, it's just good old fashioned
    market forces operating normally.

    As Nev said, if you don't like the price you can always elect not to pay.
     
    Damien, Jul 24, 2008
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  4. Beefhooked

    Beefhooked Guest

    Thankyou Johno

    I think GST is the only tax on motorcycles.
    Import tarrifs to protect local industry do not apply as their is no local
    M/C manufacturers as far as I know.
    For a difference of 6 grand on a medium priced bike, importing your own may
    be an economic alternative.

    Beef
     
    Beefhooked, Jul 25, 2008
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  5. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:01:25 GMT
    Not if you want to ride it on public roads.

    If you want to import it you have to have paperwork that the exact bike -
    not "one like it" but the one with those engine and VIN numbers - meets
    Australian Design Rules.

    If you don't have that, then you won't get import approval or you will
    only get import approval for offroad use.

    If you don't get import approval your bike doesn't get unloaded.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 25, 2008
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    theo Guest

    There used to be (maybe still is) a huge tarrif on motorcycle and
    bicycle chains because someone in Oz made chains for food machines
    (but not for bikes).

    Theo
     
    theo, Jul 25, 2008
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    J5 Guest

    what was the price when the the currency was 50 cents ?
     
    J5, Jul 25, 2008
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  8. Exchange rates... back in 2003/2004, when the $A was buying less than 50
    cents US, the prices in local currency would've been the same, which
    would've made bikes cheaper, in real terms, in Australia than in the
    US... now it's the Americans' turn to have the cheaper bikes, and we
    both pay way less than continental Europe, so quit yer whingin'.
     
    IK Laboratories, Jul 25, 2008
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    Nev.. Guest

    The Button plan was being implemented 20 years ago. I'd be surprised if
    there were still any huge tariffs on imports destined for the automotive
    industry, but I could be wrong.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., Jul 25, 2008
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    G-S Guest

    The only bits of Europe that really matter much are the UK (where bikes
    are generally cheaper than here) and Germany (where the BMW under
    discusion is also cheaper than here). [1]


    G-S

    [1] What about France I hear you say?

    Bloody cheese eating surrender monkeys!
     
    G-S, Jul 25, 2008
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    G-S Guest

    You need to take into account that in most US states sales tax (up to
    7%) is added to that US price you are quoting.

    It doesn't eliminate the difference but it does reduce it.

    Also sea freight is much cheaper Europe to the US than it is Europe to
    Australia *much much* cheaper, that will account for part of the
    difference as well.

    Some of the rest is economies of scale.

    But some of the difference is still not accounted for and I suspect
    reflects the alleged higher margins on BMW bikes and parts (compared to
    japanese bikes).



    G-S
     
    G-S, Jul 25, 2008
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    Damien Guest

    Yes, he did ask it as a question (as one usually does when asking
    questions). And I responded to it with an answer (as one usually does in
    response to a question for which one has an answer).

    Just because it wasn't the answer he wanted doesn't make it any less
    valid. :)
     
    Damien, Jul 26, 2008
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    BT Humble Guest

    Bloody oath we're being overcharged! A new BMW motorbike has barely
    $3.50 worth of steel in it, at current scrap metal prices!


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 26, 2008
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  14. In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:45:10 -0700 (PDT)
    yeah, but the copper in the wiring's worth at least $20.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 26, 2008
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    atec77 Guest

    Much more , I had to buy quite a lot of specialist video cable
    (cctv)this morning and less than 900 kg ( thats about 2600 metres) cost
    almost 3k.. ouch
     
    atec77, Jul 26, 2008
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    Nev.. Guest

    Probably only $5 worth in the new models with their fancy newfangled
    single wire bus electrics.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., Jul 26, 2008
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