Are these crap?

Any good for a learner? Or pile of poo?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-125-cc-LE...Z4573962196QQcategoryZ424QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks

Nicknoxx

 

Both, I suspect. For a learner, any old shit that runs is as good as
any other. Once you've passed you'll get onto something bigger and
realise that 125cc==Pile of poo.

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It's a CM125 clone. Depends how well it's nailed together I suppose.

 

They are rubbish, a shop here has started to sell them and looking
that them they look as if they used very old beer cans to make them.

 

I'm only guessing here that Borg doesn't sell his trikes as brand new in a
shop. I have seen a few of these sorts of bikes outside shops making a
concerted effort to return to their original materials as soon as possible.
The OP would be better off with a second hand Honda.

 

@yahoo.co.uk (Nicknoxx)" <""nicknoxx\"@yahoo.co.uk (Nicknoxx) came up with
the following;:

Big piles of crap, not just poo.

Far better with a second-hand YamaHonKawaZuki 'real thing' than a cheaper
than a cheap thing going very cheap clone, even if it's brand new.

The trail bike versions are even worse ... they have very few redeeming
features, indeed they seem to fall apart even quicker, especially if one
ventures off-road on them.

One BIG problem with them being sold as learner bikes is that most everyone
who buys a new one will want to flog it when the test is passed. They'll
then find they're worth about a fiver second-hand and only good (well, still
fucking useless really) as a field bike ...

 

Bear emerged from their own little world to say

Suzuki GS125ES is better. They have an electric start and front
disk brake. I passed my test on one 13 years ago.

Buy one for about £900 to learn on. Once you get bored with it
after passing your test you will probably be able to sell it on
for much the same price as as you paid.

There are a couple on Ebay at the moment.
http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/suz...trefZC12QQfromZR40QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ422

 

Bear emerged from their own little world to say

It is very convenient when you stop at a set of traffic lights and your
bike decides to cut out. This happened during my test.

When training with CSM it was not unusual for a learner in the group to
stall the school's CG125. They seemed to be a PITA to get going again.

 

I bet that there are tatty 2002 GC125s going now, they've got an
electric start.

They're only a PITA to get going again if you keep opening the
throttle[1], then they flood as the carb has an accelerator pump in it.
They usually start with one half arsed prod of the kick starter.

[1]As most people seem to do for some strange reason when starting
bikes.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, wessie amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

ARRGGGHHHH!!

It's Fucking *disc* brake!

 

Whinging Courier emerged from their own little world to say

Why?

According to the OED *disk* is a perfectly acceptable alternative spelling.
If you trace the etymology the -k spelling has been in use for longer than
the -c spelling.

 

Yes

Next...

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My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

From Webster's (yes I know he was a septic, so it's all irrelevant)

Disc
Noun
1. Sound recording consisting of a disc with continuous grooves;
formerly used to reproduce music by rotating while a phonograph needle
tracked in the grooves.
2. Something with a round shape like a flat circular plate.
3. (computer science) a memory device consisting of a flat disk
covered with a magnetic coating on which information is stored.
4. A thin flat circular plate.

Disk
Noun
1. Something with a round shape like a flat circular plate.
2. A thin flat circular plate.
3. Sound recording consisting of a disc with continuous grooves;
formerly used to reproduce music by rotating while a phonograph needle
tracked in the grooves.
4. (computer science) a memory device consisting of a flat disk
covered with a magnetic coating on which information is stored.

See?

Completely different.

But ...

In the minutiae of computer jargon, there also exists a distinction in
spelling between what is called a disk and what is called a disc.

Simply put, disks are any storage media which utilize electromagnetic
platters to store data. They are susceptible to data loss when placed
near magnets, and comprise the following family of storage media:

Floppy disks
Hard disks

Discs are storage media which use the patterns of light bouncing off a
pitted surface to store data. They comprise the following family of
media:

Compact discs
DVDs
WORMs

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\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 PM#5 WG*
'^' RBR 2005: Abandoned.

 

The POS bike I used for my test stalled too - well, cut out rather
than stalled. It was known to be running a bit rich, but it was the
shiniest bike in the stable and the "regular" test bike.

Anyway, I'd seen the lights change a bit late, having done a mirror
check and spotted my examiner (in a car) had dropped back a bit. I
was right up to the lights as they changed to amber and I slapped the
anchors on, realising I was going to drop him off. Of course, I
should have gone through, he would have radioed me to pull over and
wait until he cleared the lights and all would have been fine - but I
didn't. So I slapped the lot on emergency stop style, the rear locked
up on the bus-dripped oil and diesel and I slid to a rather ungainly
(although safe) halt at a /bit/ of an angle.

When the lights greened, I pulled away from the head of the queue with
the examiner a couple of cars back - with a good handful, pretty sure
I'd just failed. Caught a line of cars at the next set of lights and
the fucker cut as I braked. In a one-way, three-lane section between
shops, 40 feet short of the next lights. Kicked it when stationary -
nothing. Not a flutter.

Dragged the miserable little fucker into the kerb as the lights
started to change, took a deep breath, stood on the kerb and kicked it
/hard/. Kicked it lots. Hard. Got remarkably sweaty, remarkably
quickly, kicking the odious little beast.

Eventaully after three cycles of the lights, it went - fortunately it
caught when on full throttle and the sound of the engine got my
attention over the sound of my heart thundering. Gave the examiner
(who was sitting right behind me, hazards flashing) a hopeless sort of
wave and performed all the expected stuff before pulling out and doing
the next set of lights.

I really expected the examiner to tell me to return to the test
centre, but we went on through all the lights, round a couple of evil
mini-roundabouts and away up a steep hill. Emergency stop time, eh?

It's damn awkward doing an emergency stop, you know. On a steep and
damp hill, head full of despair and pissedoffness, not to mention a
helmet full of sweat and embarrassment. Managed to stop it without
locking up too much and keeping a bit of throttle on - then the hill
start.

That was my first ever wheelie on that POS bike. Mindful of stalling,
I gave it a right big handful, clutch bit like a Rotty - and up she
came. I remember the feeling of the Millett's best-for-a-tenner
waterproof trousers sliding back on the seat, and thinking that it
would be an unusual way to die, falling backwards from a vertical bike
and then being run over by my own examiner.

Going back down the hill on the way back to the test centre, the
fucker cut again on a downchange and I bump-started it in a
none-too-subtle manner, leaving a little darkie coming up to a
junction. But I passed, and the examiner even had the gall to
compliment me on the way I handled the kicking it over incident
without totally losing it or obstructing traffic. Good job it was a
one-way radio.

He did suggest I mention the bike's misbehaviour, though.

It would have been a **** sight easier with an electric foot. I'd
have been a lot less sweaty (providing the battery had been up to
spinning it over sufficently) and I'd have been able to do a subtle
little restart with a disengaged clutch rather than a bumpstart. And
that's my case for a 125 with electric start - the bikes provided for
lessons had electric starts, come to think of it - just the 'test
bike' was a kicker. The sadistic fuckers.

 

Yes, dear.
I acknowledge that - but ...

Even before reading SD's clarification, I'd always instinctively use
disc for brakes and CDs - and disk for magnetic-type computery disks.
As with most points of this ilk, I have no idea why I'd do this, just
that it seems right to me.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Pip amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

I'm with you on this.

The (my) reason for doing it that way is because "disc" was spelt
"disc" at school and I only really ever saw "disc" spelled[1] "disk"
when I started mucking about with computers. I thought the two were
mutually exclusive.

[1] See what I did there?

P.S. Look at the fucking time again!

Gnnnn.......

 

I sometimes refer to computer "programmes" in written communications, just
to see who bites.

But then I'm a bit of a **** like that.

 

They were discs in Shite Old ICL manuals.

 

Pip? He'z just ziz guy, you know?

Ditto. I always pause and wonder which way to use, and instinctively
use the spelling SD mentioned.

Salad, any references to the computer spellings? Or is it a case of
"its always been so"?

 

Pip? He'z just ziz guy, you know?

<thinks more...>

Maybe its because "disk" ends in a 'k', and k is also used in memory
size descriptions, and "disc", the letter 'c' being part round, so
being used for non memory related things (CDs & DVDs being lumped in
the audio/video family, and therefore not memory size related[1])



[1] Of course they are, but I'm just meandering here...