Are soldiers murderers?

"The most accepted definition" is not the same as "they agree", it just
means that the largest of the arguing minority opinions is thus.

I prefer to make $ rather than cents... bike bits are expensive these days.

G-S

 

Perhaps you could point to some reference source other than your own
imaginings as to how this latin phrase could not only be construed to mean
what you claim, but that it is in fact used by others in 'a more
genral(sic) usage' to mean what you claim.

Your incoherence is delightful. Shovels for digging self out of pit are
that way ->

Pietro

 

oh ok I like to lick other things

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/non+sequitur

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=non+sequitur

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non+sequitur

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/non-sequitur.html

Is that enough, or would you like more?

You're the one digging a hole...


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Oh I get it... You're not familiar with the fallacy of logic know as
argumentum ad numerum.

Argumentum ad numerum: This fallacy consists of asserting that the
more people who support or believe a proposition, the more likely it
is that that proposition is correct.

There are quite few fallacies of logic, Geoff. You might like to look
them up some day.


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Arses perhaps?

P

 

Sure, Murder probably involves premeditiation and intent. I think
you're chasing your tail with all this "court must decide on [un]
lawfulness" business. Presumably this means that there is a piece of
legislation which details the situations in which a person is allowed
to kill another person with intent and premeditation? Maybe you could
post a link to that? If not, is it determined by common law, and
doesn't common law set precedents, so why would it be necessary for a
court to pass judgement again. That's reinventing the wheel.
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But your using "prove God DOESN'T exist" logic here Nev.
Murder has to be found; yes. Claiming that not-murder also has to be found
is silly.
If a killing isn't found to be murder then it's not murder; simple as that.
It doesn't have to be legal under other legislation.

Buggered if I can imagine why you're persisting with this bizarre murder
stuff (I figure it must be a bet or something) but that angle is just silly.

 

U didn't read the entire convo did you silly boy

 

The same god who commanded Abraham to kill his own son!

 

Only a court can decide if a killing is murder.

 

Oh here we go again....

Yes, only a court can "find" or "decide" but murder is still murder,
whether it gets to court or not.

And courts can get it wrong. A court may find that a killing was
manslaughter even though the truth was that it was murder. The truth
doesn't always make it to court.


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Same as above

Same as above - except with an example including Theo's penis size (go
figure) and the word 'Dude' in the lowest rated response but still
esentially the same.

Same as above

Same as above

Oh do go on - it is apparent that actually believe yourself.

In your perception perhaps but you are certainly the one in the hole.

Pietro

 

Then it is and will remain an alledged murder until proven by a court of law
as only a court of law can detirmine if a killing was murder. Murder is not
an act it is a result of being found guilty.

Capt. A. L.

 

So there was no murder before the inception of Courts of Law?

Bill

 

Was the term even used before the courts of law?
If you believe so define murder before a system of law existed.

Capt. A. L.

 

Actually I was being a smart arse, but seeing as you bit...

You\re the one saying that only a 'court of law' can determine if a
killing was murder. Up to you to prove it.

I think it was Clem who commented that the idea of murder didn't
appear simply because legal codes were established. Primitive
civilisations had social codes prohibiting and punishing murder before
they had 'courts of law'.

And interestingly, the word murder is related, in old English, to the
French word mordre (bite) in reference to the heavy compensation one
must pay for causing an unjust death. (from wikipedia). So even murder
isn't murder, could be manslaugher or something else.

Bill

 

They were their laws and those amongst them respociable for enforcing those
laws decided if the killing was murder or otherwise.

Of corse murder is murder. Manslaughter is manslaughter it's different to
murder. That's why we need courts to detirmine what each act of apparently
unlawful kiling is. Is it murder, manslaughter, justifiable homicide,
killing in self defence, accidental killing, killing but with diminished
responciability . Until a court, or whatever other body upholds the laws of
a civilisation in question, makes a decision regarding the perpetrator of
the killing it's only a killing or an alledged murder.

Capt. A. L.

 

Nope; just a hell of a lot of killing!

 

Not me.

 

No, you clearly can't read properly. It said, inter alia, "a
statement having little or no relation to what preceded it"

No, you clearly can't read properly. It said, inter alia, "A
statement that has little or nothing to do with the preceding
statement."

No, you clearly can't read properly. It said, inter alia,
"a statement that is not clearly related to anything previously said"

No, you clearly can't read properly. It said, inter alia, "response
that does not logically proceed from what has been said"

Well I'd say that I'm now well and truly out the hole in which you
have imagined me to be, old chap.

I have demonstrated , using several references , how this latin phrase
could not only be construed to mean what I claim, but that it is in
fact used by others in 'a more general usage' to mean what I claim
(to borrow your words).

Now bugger off before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.
As I said, go play with Wyzl. You two would get on well. And who
knows, you might even be able to enlist the good Lunchtime Captain and
his trusty sidekick, Knobdribble, and form some sort of club for
people who entangle themselves in legalisitic gobbledegook to such an
extent that they can no longer understand the caution which ought o be
mounted above the entrance to every court house in the land, namely,
"THE LAW IS AN ASS".

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Onya bike

Gerry