Are open-face motorcycle helmets any good?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by zenelis, Jul 21, 2005.

  1. zenelis

    zenelis Guest

    Hi all,

    I just bought a 50cc scooter to get me around the center of London and
    I need to get a couple of helmets for me and my girlfriend.

    I see a lot of people riding scooters with an open-face helmet but
    almost all the people riding a bigger bike use a full-face one. This
    makes me think the open-face helmet is not very good/safe, even though
    it looks much beter.

    What do people think about open-face helmets and which brands would you
    recommend for one?

    Thank you

    KZ
     
    zenelis, Jul 21, 2005
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  2. zenelis

    YTC#1 Guest

    Cross the road running as fast as you can, then just before you get to the
    otherside take a dive and chin the kerb.

    Now, what do you think ?
     
    YTC#1, Jul 21, 2005
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  3. zenelis

    Buzby Guest

    I just bought a 50cc scooter to get me around the center of London and

    Before you buy, try rubbing your nose or chin down the road and then draw
    your own conclusions.
     
    Buzby, Jul 21, 2005
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  4. zenelis

    BGN Guest

    I know someone who has a fully reconstructed chin and almost all of
    his face replaced with skin from other parts of his body and no nose,
    just holes that dribble snot because he used an open faced helmet.

    I'm not a fan of open face helmets as you get so much wind in your
    face and stones thrown up by cars, insects that glasses just don't
    stop.

    I suggest you get into a car, get up to about thirty, then throw
    yourself face down and scrape along that road surface to simulate the
    damage to what will be left of your face.

    Smile: <http://members.lycos.co.uk/basmaf/face.jpg> (Not work or
    family or upset tummy or gore safe)
    (Also: Oldest doctored photograph on the internet)
     
    BGN, Jul 21, 2005
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  5. zenelis

    KZ Guest

    Looks like a pretty simple decision. Full face it is... :)

    Thank you all.
     
    KZ, Jul 21, 2005
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  6. zenelis

    gomez Guest

    Compromise and get a flip-top. Just remember to close the front as
    you fly through the air before hitting the deck.
     
    gomez, Jul 21, 2005
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    Teal'c Guest

    I cannot equate the constrictive feel of a full face helmet with an open
    face or even no helmet
    like having a screw with or withoiut a johnnie
    every opportunity I ride into work 3 miles on back roads without a helmet
    If Ive had a shower it dries the hair off beautifully
    then when I started riding you could learn on any capacity bike stil #ive
    laasted this long withoput body armour and an open face bit like the current
    view that kids should be protected from themselves by not participating in
    competitive games.
    I really feel for the poor underprivelidged sods when the get into the real
    world
    or are they the next generation going to be either care in the community or
    "on the sick" from stress
    We are breeding a generation of unprepared kids who are not going to cope in
    the real world!1
     
    Teal'c, Jul 21, 2005
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  8. zenelis

    BGN Guest

    When I had my 'little offing' in April I was wearing my flip top HJC
    SyMax. After I'd finished bouncing, skidding and otherwise polishing
    the road I noticed that the front had flipped up while I was playing
    Mr. Gravity Puppet.

    It appears that when I instinctively put my hand out to stop my head
    hitting the road (no chance!) I whacked my hand/glove with my
    head/helmet (which smashed my knuckle armour) and in that action hit
    the Quick Release button on the outside of the SyMax
    (<http://motorcyclecruiser.com/accessoriesandgear/FF-HJC-clsd.JPG> &
    <http://motorcyclecruiser.com/accessoriesandgear/FF-HJC-open.JPG> red
    bit on the front) which is ever so slightly worrying.

    However, I've seen that a few Nitro Helmets also have a similar Quick
    Release system, but the button appears to be positioned on the inside.
    But I don't have a Nitro shaped head.

    There are some reviews of various flip up helmets here:
    http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/accessoriesandgear/fliphelmets/
     
    BGN, Jul 21, 2005
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  9. zenelis

    Lozzo Guest

    says...
    Buy whatever style you like, as long as you buy a Nitro helmet from a
    dealer on my patch.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 21, 2005
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    mups Guest

    How does he smell...
     
    mups, Jul 21, 2005
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  11. zenelis

    gomez Guest

    Worrying, I have just got a cheap HJC flip-top to see if I like the
    concept (so far I do). On mine (can't see the model name - CL-Max?)
    you have to hook the thumb under the catch and pull away from the face
    for it to release.
     
    gomez, Jul 21, 2005
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  12. zenelis

    BGN Guest

    He doesn't. He doesn't taste either.
     
    BGN, Jul 21, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    KZ emerged from their own little world to say
    with the advantage that nobody can recognise you riding a scooter
     
    wessie, Jul 21, 2005
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    came up with the following;:
    I wear 'em all the time .. but then I ride Trials bikes at **** all mph ..
    ;)

    On the road, or Moto-crossing, I wear a full-face, and wouldn't wear
    anything else.
     
    Paul - xxx, Jul 21, 2005
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  15. zenelis

    BGN Guest

    Correction to my post: I actually have to reach into the helmet
    slightly and 'pull' out to open it, not just push it. Similar design
    to how you describe.

    ....Which makes me wonder HOW it opened in the first place! There are
    no scratches on the quick release button, and even now if I grab it
    and try to force the front up it doesn't give way. The system appears
    undamaged as the only impact (apart from to the rear of the helmet,
    which occurred when I rolled out of the road after I came to a stop,
    hitting the back on the tar as I tried to convince myself I could
    still breathe) was to the right hand side of the face plate
    (<http://hayn.gotadsl.co.uk/bike/crash/helmet.jpg>)

    I'm no expert, but from the scratch patterns they appear to have
    happened in two directions. Perhaps one when closed, one when open.
    I wasn't taking much notice of things like flip up helmets at the time
    otherwise I'd have paid more attention. I was more concerned with...
    **** knows. Thinking things like "I'm going to be late for dinner",
    "I forgot to get that book back from Maria", "Pay day today!" and
    other obscure things unrelated to the event in hand.
     
    BGN, Jul 21, 2005
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    Steve Parry Guest

    fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
    I have one for those nice sunny days when going on a steady back lane
    bimble on my smaller bike.

    They're not as "safe" as a full face but sometimes the "pleasure" of
    having high velocity bumble bees/bluebottles/horseflies/midges smaking
    you in the face is too great to resist. ;)



    --
    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort [de-scarred]

    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Jul 21, 2005
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  17. BGN wrote
    It probably wasn't closed fully. Every now and then I will be riding
    along and the world just don't sound right. A quick smack in the face
    with my left hand (the right being busy holding the throttle jammed to
    the stop) closes the helmet properly and all is right with the world
    once again. Not often but it does happen.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 21, 2005
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  18. zenelis

    BGN Guest

    Must get cold in winter, though?
     
    BGN, Jul 21, 2005
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  19. zenelis

    mb Guest

    Good grief...
     
    mb, Jul 21, 2005
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  20. wrote
    **** all that bollox about avoiding road rash, that only happens
    occasionally. Every bit of shit on the road going straight into your
    face happens every journey. Full face yerrats offer you a fly, stone
    and dog-end free ride, end of story.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 21, 2005
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