[QUOTE="Mo"] Shoei on the other hand are good design at least in the visor clip area. And the build quality is good. [/QUOTE] I've got a Shoei RX-R and I think the visor clip area is utterly crap. Took me ages to get the alignment right and then it kept loosening off. Eventually used "way too much" torque to tighten it up on the premise that the plastic screws would sheer if overdone. Mind you it's stayed put for about a year and half until two minutes ago when I popped everything off to check my facts aaauuuughh !!! [1] [1] Cheapest lid that felt comfortable, maybe the more expensive lids have better fittings.