Anyone want to help me wind up this bod ?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004.

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    YTC#1 Guest

    Over on uk.comp.sys.sun

    (don't worry, very little traffic)

    Thread
    "Co-operative Bank withdraws support for non-Windows business account
    users"

    All I want is proof, but they don't seem to be able to grasp the concept
    and think I am being awkward :)
     
    YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004
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    Mark Olson Guest

    I tried Mozilla 1.0.0 on Debian Linux and the site says it won't work
    with my browser...

    http://www.smile.co.uk/cgi-bin/compatibility/smiletest.cgi

    After adding this line to my prefs.js file:

    user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)" );

    Their server is as happy as can be. Fuckwits.
     
    Mark Olson, Mar 6, 2004
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    Nidge Guest


    Oh, sorry, misread your request.
    I thought you *were* being awkward so I went to help you wind them up.
    Subtly mind, subtly ;-P


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    Nidge
    ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few
    bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63

    'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
    Homer (Simpson).
     
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    YTC#1 Guest

    YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Well, ok , I am :)
     
    YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    <makes note>

    That's quietly building up a fire for the night, right?
     
    Pip, Mar 6, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    It's not wholly unusual. To test a website with every possible
    browser is nigh on impossible and different browser all render things
    in different ways. To restrict your users to certain browsers is the
    norm. And given the IE has 99% of the market I can understand a
    company choosing to ignore any other browser. I do it myself.
     
    Ben, Mar 6, 2004
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    YTC#1 Guest

    I don't know what makes them think that :)
     
    YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004
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    YTC#1 Guest


    thats exactly the sort of thing I am fighting against. People who make up
    stats or facts and decide that they are real. People then start to
    believe them and quote them.

    http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox26.html

    Its *not* 99% ... Ok ! :)
     
    YTC#1, Mar 6, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    95%... not a huge difference really is it?

    Interesting - the sites I work on are averaging 93% IE.
     
    dwb, Mar 6, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    1. Microsoft IE 6.0 68.1%
    2. Microsoft IE 5.5 13.8%
    3. Microsoft IE 5.0 11.8%

    Total market share = 93.7%

    For an off the top of my head guess I was pretty close.
     
    Ben, Mar 6, 2004
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    MS might claim 99% of the market. Why not do a poll on here, and in The
    Shed? I think you'd be surprised how many use other browsers.

    The only thing I ever used IE for was to download Opera. And I used
    Opera to download Firebird.
     
    Jaques d'Alltrades, Mar 6, 2004
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Jaques
    Are you *seriously* holding UKRMers and the Sheddi up as being in any
    way representative of the rest of the planet?

    Seek help.
     
    Nigel Eaton, Mar 6, 2004
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    How many of those are other browsers pretending to be IE?
     
    Jaques d'Alltrades, Mar 6, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    Doesn't matter. When you're selling something or providing a service
    it makes sense to provide it to the biggest group of people. In
    browser terms, that's IE users.

    I'm not saying this from a pro-IE point of view, I'm saying it from a
    "I work as a web developer and that's life" point of view.
    90-whatever % of browsers are IE so if you want 90-whatever percent of
    people to be able to use your website perfectly you write it so it
    works perfectly on IE. If it was Netscape or Opera with that market
    share then they would be the target browsers.
     
    Ben, Mar 6, 2004
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  16. HELP! Anne!
     
    Jaques d'Alltrades, Mar 7, 2004
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    Sean Doherty Guest

    Here's the stats for hexmad.com for March:

    1 52.02% MSIE 6.0
    2 12.79% Google
    3 10.71% Other [1]
    4 9.95% Mozilla/5
    5 6.23% Mozilla/4
    6 4.48% MSIE 5.5
    7 3.06% MSIE 5.0
    8 0.66% Mozilla
    9 0.11% Opera

    [1] Mostly bots that are not google.
     
    Sean Doherty, Mar 7, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Your hexmad site is for predominately techie types, what would the stats
    from, say, Argos be like?
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2004
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    MikeR Guest

    You'd have to queue for half an hour to collect the statistics from a
    bored, surly teenager, then assemble them over the course of an
    afternoon, and even when you'd done that they'd look nothing like they
    did in the catalog.
     
    MikeR, Mar 7, 2004
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    YTC#1 Guest

    So how do you explain away that is *was* netscape with that market share,
    yet everyone wrote for IE ?
     
    YTC#1, Mar 7, 2004
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