You can guess the rest, I'd love to borrow it for an hour! My new chain kit came without a spring link, so I can't make a temporary fix to ride it to a shop to have them do up the rivet link. And no shops round here have a spring link in stock FFS. I could spend fifty quid to buy a tool myself, except I don't have it. http://www.biker-bitz.co.uk/products/16tools/tools.htm for example. Anyone know of one going (much) cheaper anywhere? Oh well, it was worth a try. Salut. -- Regards from Mike Barnard Yamaha YZF1000 Thunderace. Worthing, West Sussex. [To reply by email remove ".trousers" spamtrap from email address]
You shouldn't use a spring link on a bike like a Thunderace anyway. As has been said many times on here before - peen the soft link over yourself using a hammer/punch/block of wood combo. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
Good chain riveters/breakers (Ie: ones that can handle big chains) just *are* expensive. As Champ says, just support the other side of the link and peen it over. You'll also almost certainly find that the pins on the soft link are tapered, so you have to force the side plate on (G-clamps do the trick). This is extra security. Good big spring links have the same tapered pins as well.
"Because" Seriously - I don't know. The spring clip isn't underany any more load on a bigger bike. It's Just Not Done. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
I paid a dealer to fit a new chain last week to avoid the Spring Clip of Doom. Imagine than my delight on picking the bike up to be told the chain was too short so they fitted a spring clip.
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Spring clips can take the power 'cos race bikes have them. It can take the wear 'cos bikes have used them since the dawn of time. I stopped using soft/rivet links when I hit one hard from the front with a chisel to remove it and it popped off. I honestly think spring clips are stronger. If you really take things seriously I guess continuous is the way to go but IMHO that's overkill.
Not in my experience. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
I'd think it's a speed thing. The faster you go, the more likely a spring clip is to go 'ping' as the chain whips about.
But they do use spring clips on race bikes. ...and I've managed the last 200,000 odd miles [1] on bikes with split pin chains. Sometimes I go fastish. [1] Estimated.
That's ok then. I had[1] a spring clip on my FZR chain, and it didn't let go either, but.... from the look of things, it has had a chain let go in the past. I think WaveyDavey was the owner at the time, maybe he can shed light on why it let go. [1]Now fitted with a DID X-ring chain with rivet link.
What evidence do you have for this? I can't give a definitive answer, but I've never seen spring clips used on race bikes in the last 4 years. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
In the Old Days they could get knocked off if a flailing chain (too slack, in other words) touched something like a sprocket cover. It happened to me on a CB750. And then goodbye chain. As I said elsewhere in this thread, modern spring links have plates fitted to tapered pins, and losing the spring link doesn't mean the link will part. That said, I'd still feel safer with a soft link.
Champ says... I supplied hundreds of DID chain kits to racers when I was working for the importers. Most of them used a spring clip as it made changing gearing much easier. I know for a fact that Moores used spring clips in their old R6 and on the R1 they raced in recent years in KRC.
Heh, as I've found out. Will have to get on with it soon or the current chain will be away on its own. Thanks TOG and Champ. Will be doing this soon. -- Regards from Mike Barnard Yamaha YZF1000 Thunderace. Worthing, West Sussex. [To reply by email remove ".trousers" spamtrap from email address]
Well, *I* don't use them. I've not seen other people using them either, but then again, I've not really been looking. Don't be - Lozzo's given a more definitive answer, and I would seem to be wrong. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
