Anyone know the float hight for XJ900 carbs ?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BORG, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. BORG

    BORG Guest

    Only got a downloaded manual and it show the clear tube method.

    Anyone know what the float height using a ruler is ?

    thanks

    XJ900 pre Divy carbs
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    BORG, Jul 24, 2006
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  2. BORG

    BORG Guest


    you use a ruler and measure from the seating of the float bowl to the
    top of the float,

    Its the same setting as using the clear pipe method except the pipe
    method assumes the carbs are on the bike and the bike is running. You
    have to remove the carbs and adjust each time, with the ruler method
    you don't.

    But then if you knew what you was on about you would of course know
    this.
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    BORG, Jul 24, 2006
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  3. BORG

    Lozzo Guest

    BORG says...
    If you just left the fucking thing alone and stopped pissing about with
    measurements like this then maybe you'd never have to ask. In 28 years
    of owning piles of shite I've never needed to adjust float heights
    except when fitting new ones, and then I do it by the manufacturers
    manual.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 24, 2006
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  4. BORG

    BORG Guest


    well good for you, take it you've never had to buy any bits from a
    breaker then, or if you have you trust everything to be spot on, nore
    have you ever re built anything ?


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    BORG, Jul 24, 2006
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  5. The clear pipe method shows you what the fuel level actually is, rather
    than setting them by ruler and not knowing precisely what's going on
    once the carbs are on. Ok, it's a bit fiddlier to set up, but you don't
    have to put the carb bank back on each time - just make up small jig on
    your benchtop to hold them.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 24, 2006
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  6. BORG wrote
    I'm with the Spik on this one. Unless you are confident a previous owner
    has had at them and adjusted it all badly then leave well alone. It is
    a nightmare to get right if you don't get it right first time. Trust me
    on this. Especially if said previous owner has done more than just
    bodge the float heights.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 24, 2006
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  7. BORG

    Lozzo Guest

    BORG says...
    I wouldn't buy used floats for a bike of that age, cos the chances are
    they'd be as leaky as the ones I was scrapping within a short space of
    tiem. New ones are cheap enough not to bother with troublesome used ones
    anyway. Not all of us are *that* pikey that everything has to be sourced
    from the lowest bidder. There are times when used parts are a false
    economy, and when it comes to the hassle of stripping carbs from an old
    UJM I'd rather rebuild them once with new bits than be constantly
    pissing around taking them out and trying to get them back into hardened
    inlet rubbers once I've sorted out this week's problem.

    I've probably successfully rebuilt more engines and bikes than you've
    ever owned.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 24, 2006
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  8. BORG

    ChrisDC Guest

    Then get a bit of clear pipe and use it. Screenwasher pipe is cheap
    and would be OK short-term. I'm sure you can bodge a screw-in adapter
    for it.

    BTW, if you are thinking of balancing the carbs, you do need to blank
    off the linking passageways in the inlet manifold. They can't be
    synchronised properly without this. There is a Yamaha tool that cost
    about £20 when I bought one, but that was in 1992.

    An alternative is to find some non-reinforced tubing that just fits in
    the cross-passage, feed it through, then expand it either by
    compressing the ends inwards or block one end and pump up the other so
    that it seals properly and isolates the inlet tracts.

    Good luck
     
    ChrisDC, Jul 24, 2006
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  9. BORG

    BORG Guest


    yer I am aware of this, although there are several trains of thought
    on it

    Some ppl swear that they can be balanced better without the tool being
    used.

    Another tip I have seen is don't bother with the special tool and use
    a 10mm soft wood dowel.

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    XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

    [Rot 13 it]

    Some people are like slinkys....
    no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
     
    BORG, Jul 24, 2006
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  10. BORG

    ChrisDC Guest

    That's bollocks. I've tried to do it with and without the tool,
    monitoring progress with a 4-channel manometer, and you cannot
    synchronise it accurately unless the inlet tract link is blocked.
    There is just too much interaction between the linked carbs. You can
    have one a long way out yet it has little effect on tickover.
    If you like splinters of wood heading into your engine, go ahead.

    The special tool is a few alternating sections of rubber pipe and
    alloy tube threaded onto a metal rod, with a lever that compresses the
    pipes lengthways to block the tract linkages.

    I suggest you treat the "advice" you've recieved with a healthy dose
    of scepticism. Mine too, for that matter, but I had an XJ900F for 7
    years and did all my own servicing after the first 2. The person who
    bought it off me was, and still is, very happy with the work I'd done
    and the way I'd looked after it.

    My feelings about what she has done to the frame are somewhat mixed.
     
    ChrisDC, Jul 25, 2006
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  11. BORG

    BORG Guest


    Advice taken and tool now being sort, if I can find one now
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    XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

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    Some people are like slinkys....
    no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
     
    BORG, Jul 25, 2006
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  12. BORG

    BORG Guest


    very probably, then again so have I.
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    XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

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    Some people are like slinkys....
    no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
     
    BORG, Jul 25, 2006
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  13. BORG

    BORG Guest


    Well after phoning Yamaha UK and finding out the price of the 'tool'
    is £50 I think I'll make my own.
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    XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

    [Rot 13 it]

    Some people are like slinkys....
    no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
     
    BORG, Jul 26, 2006
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  14. That wooden dowel idea sounds the simplest.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 26, 2006
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  15. BORG

    ChrisDC Guest

    Unless it's a perfect sliding fit and guaranteed splinter-free I
    wouldn't go for that one.
     
    ChrisDC, Jul 26, 2006
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  16. I doubt it needs to be perfect, just quite close.
    When's the last time you came across a splintery dowel? This is a
    genuine British made dowel I'm talking about not some cheap foreign
    muck.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 26, 2006
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