Anyone got any ideas on this?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nige, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Nige

    Cane Guest

    Cane, Jun 24, 2006
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  2. No, it *isn't*.

    It is OHC. The CG has.....

    <Makes Sign of Holy Pushrods>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 24, 2006
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  3. No it's not. *Sigh*.

    Yours may be but this one isn't.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 24, 2006
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  4. Nige

    TMack Guest

    Got my 200cc version (in my case branded X-Dirt) for £530 including VAT,
    registration and delivery back in Feb of this year. No problems so far.
    Spares easy to obtain. New engines can be found from time to time for less
    than £200. New front forks £99 etc. etc. These things have been produced
    in millions and sold worldwide so spares not a problem. Engine is CG125
    clone so robust and easy to maintain. They probably only cost about £150 to
    make in China, hence the rock-bottom prices. It is also likely that they
    are being sold at low cost on the European market to increase market share
    as China is keen to increase export markets.
     
    TMack, Jun 24, 2006
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  5. Nige

    Timo Geusch Guest

    I'd listen to the spic, he knows what he's talking about.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jun 24, 2006
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  6. Nige

    TMack Guest

    Ah.....missed that. They actually use several types of engine in GY type
    bikes, the CG125 type engine being the most common. My 200cc is a CG type
    push-rod. In this case (assuming that they have got the description right)
    it will be a clone of the 125cc Honda OHC engine such as the one used in the
    CLR125 etc. Also very robust.
     
    TMack, Jun 24, 2006
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  7. The Older Gentleman wrote

    <waves>
     
    steve auvache, Jun 24, 2006
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  8. Nige

    TMack Guest

    See my reply above - various engines used, usually CG125 type so I missed
    the OHC bit in the description. In this case it will be a clone of the
    Honda 125cc OHC engine which is also very robust.
     
    TMack, Jun 24, 2006
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  9. Nige

    TMack Guest

    I reckon you also need to factor in that many are bought by people with no
    mechanical knowledge (often as first bikes for 17yr olds) and are very badly
    maintained. Just about everyting is cheaply obtainable and easy to replace.

    You also need to factor in how many have been sold. 10 bikes out of 20
    would be a sign of major problems, 10 out of 1000 wouldn't.
     
    TMack, Jun 24, 2006
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  10. Nige

    Nige Guest


    I am well aware you get what you pay for, but this is my first bike in many years & all i asked for was
    feedback on a £400 bike, i have mentioned what it would be used for & all you can do is give me a hard
    time over my company car??? Christ, get a life. I often find the fuckwits that give me a hard time about
    the Subaru are the gobshites that have never driven or owned what is a very tough, superb driving car.

    I have no intention in spending a couple of grand on a bike i may or may not get to ride very often, I am
    skilled enough to do any job that needs doing & as for warranty, i'm not bothered for £400. Buy a
    knackered second hand bike for £400 i'm sure you'll get more problems than a new one!

    I'm obviously not expecting a Harley Davidson for £400 & as it's built to cost I'm not expecting super
    reliabilty either.

    Nige
     
    Nige, Jun 24, 2006
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  11. Nige

    Nige Guest


    I see you're the group know all? They all have them.
     
    Nige, Jun 24, 2006
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  12. That was a very definite bite :)) Thank you.
    If that's the case, fine, like I said.

    Oh yes, agree absolutely.
    It'll be more reliable than a Harley. Faster, too.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 24, 2006
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  13. Lighten up. I've given you some decent advice, prodded you gently to see
    how easily you'd react, and not been disappointed.

    I don't know everything about bikes. But I do know a lot.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 24, 2006
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  14. Nige

    Nige Guest


    Get bent.
     
    Nige, Jun 24, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    Don't worry, the cheapo Chinese import's far more technically advanced
    than a Harley. Probably more reliable too.

    --
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    '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger (FOYRNB) '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
     
    Krusty, Jun 24, 2006
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  16. Nige

    Nige Guest


    Fair enough mate, but i realise that i'm gonna get what i pay for, i was really asking about the bike
    itself, not asking for comments on my company car!!

    Anyway, for £400 it's worth it for the laugh (or cry) as i want to get back into bikes, but if i dont
    like it i aint lost a right lot.

    Nige
     
    Nige, Jun 24, 2006
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  17. Nige

    Nige Guest


    Aye, probably is!

    Nige
     
    Nige, Jun 24, 2006
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  18. Nige

    Pip Guest

    Bikes are different. I'd spent countless hours building and
    rebuilding all sorts of cars, from 'classics' and kit cars to bangers
    and stage rally cars - from the ground up, sometimes from the ground
    down - and when I started working on bikes I had to expand my mind, as
    well as my toolbox. It ain't the same.
    He may not know it /all/, but he knows most of it. He does.
    Sort this fucking abortion of a sig-sep out, will you? If you insist
    on dragging a .sig around behind your posts, at least separate it
    properly. My newsreader will snip .sigs on just about any indication,
    but not with a fucking query tagged on to it. As suggested above, all
    you need is <dashdashspacereturn>. Oh, and your line length needs
    reducing - 70ish characters is entirely sufficient. TYVM.
     
    Pip, Jun 24, 2006
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  19. Nige

    Lozzo Guest

    Nige said...
    TOG is a freelance motorcycle journalist with a keen ear for a bargain.
    in his 30 odd years of biking he has accumulated an immense knowledge of
    motorcycles and the bike trade in general. I am a rep in the bike trade
    with 28 years motorcycling experience. During my working day I vist up
    to 6 different bike shops and see a lot of what is good and what isn't.
    I also like a bargain, as anyone here will tell you.

    Two of the most experienced and knowledgeable motorcyclists/trade
    related people who post to ukrm have advised you to avoid these bikes,
    doesn't that tell you something?

    You on the other hand are a newbie with little or no experience of
    bikes, which is why you asked for advice. We've given it, it's now up to
    you to decide if you want to take it.

    As someone else here said, "If it looks too good to be true, it usually
    is"

    Caveat Emptor.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 24, 2006
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  20. Great. I hope you've got access to milling machines and a lathe or two;
    you'll need it. Mechanical expertise is great, but when you can't get
    the parts you're up shit creek.

    At least you can get the bits for something Japanese and knackered from
    an established maker.
    That's ok. You won't be disappointed.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 24, 2006
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