Anyone for chicken?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 28, 2006.

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    Yup, far too reasoned and literate for Platy.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 31, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    I'm saying nuffink.
     
    Ben, Dec 31, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    You can sort of. My home insurance covers damage to any of my
    belongings outside the house, whoever causes the damage is irrelevant.
    Effectively the same cover as my FC car insurance.

    My company health insurance covers the same but to me.
     
    Ben, Dec 31, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    So if it wasn't negligence by the rider because he didn't see the kid
    was it a criminal act by the kid to jump in front of a bike that he
    couldn't see?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 31, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Best not to.

    It's a bit like the bullshit line "I can't afford a motorbike". Yes
    you can but your budget will only stretch to a cheap old nail.

    Pushbikes can be cheap or they can be expensive.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 31, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm not trying to lay the blame on the rider when the kid ran out in
    front of him but if he couldn't see the kid how could the kid have
    seen him? I agree that Darwin's law is working here because it was
    rank stupidity but was it a criminal act?

    I just don't think the biker will be 100% successful in his claim.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 31, 2006
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    You fire a gun at random in your local park and someone gets hit,
    they're not negligent but it may be a criminal act by you as you knew
    there could well be people around.
     
    Colin Irvine, Dec 31, 2006
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    Eiron Guest

    So do loud pipes.
     
    Eiron, Dec 31, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Throwing "things" into traffic would normally be done with the intention
    that the things actually hit the traffic. The intention when playing
    chicken (ie throwing oneself into the traffic) would be to avoid impact,
    albeit by the narrowest of margins.

    If the boy hadn't been hit by the motorcyclist, would his action have been
    considered criminal? I don't believe so. Do the unintended consequences
    convert it into a criminal act? Again, I don't think it does.
     
    platypus, Dec 31, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Fuckoff. Your all ****'s.
     
    platypus, Dec 31, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    There's often a serious line in my facetious comments, and you've
    picked this one out. I like to be readily detectable, so I make
    myself available to be seen and heard, but I will always try to
    minimise the time I spend in a position that is either unexpected or
    out of line of (direct or mirrored) sight.

    That said, I had to modify my style the other day, due to the
    intermittent wetness and greasiness of the surface. To make
    overtakes, I'd cross the line and get on the dry line on the other
    side before putting the power on, as anything else resulted in some
    very entertaining powerslides. Coming to a halt at a junction on the
    back brake (due to the front locking up a couple of times), I was
    entertained to find the rear wheel coming round for a visit to the
    front end.

    A return to Winter throttle settings seems to be called for, thumb on
    the switch block to avoid sudden openings, that sort of thing - but
    I'll still make my overtakes as wide and over with as quickly as I
    can.
     
    Pip, Dec 31, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    frag says...
    It serves to remind them what a lousy job they did of bringing the
    little scrote up.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 1, 2007
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    frag Guest

    banged the rocks together and they said :
    You know when you're driving/riding along a motorway, and one of those
    *huge* signs is coming up, but you're overtaking a wagon in lane 1?

    And it always seems to completely block your view of said sign so you
    can't read any of it? Speeds matched perfectly so wagon stays in front
    of sign?

    And you can't imagine how a transit can obscure a small kid running out
    from the side of the road?

    Anyway, the biker wasn't at fault (IMO) and has suffered financially
    and physically, so he's entitled to regain his losses. No need for the
    family to get involved in any way I'd guess.

    Yes, it is bloody sad that the papers/news latched onto it, they're the
    people who are increasing the familys suffering - "Oh, that'll make
    people buy our rag, **** the bereaved family"
     
    frag, Jan 1, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    An insurance company would almost certainly (IME) look at a claim for
    Contributory Negligence to reduce their liability.
     
    ogden, Jan 2, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    I had this kind of thing explained to me by a brief last year, the
    example used being that of kids dropping bricks off a motorway bridge.
    Don't confuse intent with recklessness.
     
    ogden, Jan 2, 2007
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I'm not: read what I said again.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 2, 2007
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    Derek Turner Guest

    Well of course plod were disinterested. They are paid to be
    disinterested and probably swear an oath to uphold the law in a
    disinterested way. I would be shocked to hear that they were NOT
    disinterested, who needs a biased, pecuniary police force?

    HOWEVER if they were UNinterested then I would be very disappointed.
     
    Derek Turner, Jan 11, 2007
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    porl Guest

    I see him as a potentially valuable asset to the Pedants Club; after,
    that is, an explanation of why the police shouldn't be paid for their
    toil.
     
    porl, Jan 11, 2007
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