Anyone else up watching things unfold?

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Preston Kemp"

Do a google for 'Mi Lai'.

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Lozzo wrote

I didn't know there was any need for us to be talking to the GIs.

 

steve auvache says...

Our troops have to shout "Don't shoot, we're British" on a regular
basis.

 

Nylons? Chewing gum?

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I'm not surprised if they suffer that badly from mispunctuation, old
boy.

 

....can you think of a SENSIBLE reason...?

No-one's suggesting the death penalty be imposed by courts after the
event. We're talking about soldiers who feel threatened taking action
which they, rightly or wrongly, feel to be necessary to defend
themselves.

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Heh. Indeed.

 

My Lai might get a better response.

Throw in the name Calley.

 

"The Battle Hymn of Lt Calley"

 

Wizard secured a place in history by writing:

Don't have any problem with the soldier-supporting perspective. I just
think these are *sensible* reasons (ie plausible) and people are likely to
end up dead despite them. Which warrants some consideration at least, even
if you ultimately conclude 'tough'.

 

More significant I feel were the likes of Marshall Zhukov. For example,
when faced with a mine field he'd just march straight through it. His
argument was that the loses would be about the same as if the Germans had
defended it by conventional means.

IIRC, he was a survivor of Stalin's purges. This meant he came to his
rank quite young and I suspect it gave him some appreciation of the power
of fear to motivate people, and a casual disregard for human lives.

Without Zhukov and his ilk I'm sure that Germany would have been defeated
but it might have taken a lot longer. Of course, with less catastrophic
losses on the Eastern front they'd have had more resources for the other
fronts, which might have been significant.

And they'd also have more time to pursue their V-weapon and nuclear
research, with who knows what results.

 

Preston Kemp muttered

Quite. I post to/read UKRM for my entertainment, so what I post or who
I reply to is my business alone. You'll find conversing with Des
ultimately frustrating though...but more power to your elbow. You'll
need it....

 

I'm sure there are numerous examples if you go back far enough.

 

At last... Well put Sir...
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It was the NI equivalent of cop-baiting... 'cept wiv guns...

Wot ewe sed...
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On 10 Nov 2004 01:47:09 -0800, (DannyBoy)
wrote:

snip

snip

Bush will never attack Saudi... too many business links...
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Hmm. Ayatollah Khameni may have something to say about that.

Suadi already attacked Bush.

It's the most important part of the republican foreign policy...

 

Zilch. V-weapons were a dead end without nukes, and Germany was a long,
long way from ever assembling one.

There was one half-built experimental pile at.... Nuremberg? Heidelberg>
I'll google for it later... but Germany, at that satge, just didnt have
the industrial muscle or cash.

 

And it isn't?[1]

Phil.

[1] Santa made me do it![2]
[2] ObThreadCrossover

 

Because they don't recognise that soldier's authority to be there.