Anyone else noticed then?

Erm, was your Dad with her?

If not, why should she make use of the disabled sticker when it's not
meant for her?

 

so being a bit of a twat is heriditary, then?

 

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:25:12 +0000, Phil Launchbury
<> bored us all completely to death with wittery
prose along the lines of:

Nice. You should see France. People really take the piss here (in
Paris at any rate) and don't respect disabled bays at all. Mind you,
the fine is something abysmal and no one bothers to chase it up. I
don't know if the shops can be arsed (if the bays are on their land)
to do anything about it.

I don't give a shit what Des says, but France is years behind the UK
in assistance for those registered disabled. Buses in Paris are the
only place where I can see anything resembling something as 'disabled
friendly'. The RER and metro are a fscking disgrace (although I think
London Underground isn't 100%) and taxis with disabled access don't
exist.

There isn't a culture like the UK when talking/working on disabled
access and France (and Paris) have a long way to go.

 

The buses are fine here, but unless I'm missing something obvious, the
Underground is about 0% disability-friendly.

 

with the exception of the Jubilee Line extension and one or two other
places.

 

To get to the trains (i.e. platforms, stairs, etc), it's not great in
either city.

However, getting on some of the trains (especially the RER) is a bit
of a hurdle, as in a lot of places, you have to mount a couple of
steps to get into the trains. IIRC, most of the underground trains
have doors at platform level.

 

fair enough. I can't remember ever using any part of the Jubilee Line.

 

Friction coefficient IIRC

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Lyon's Metro was a joy to use.

 

I was there last summer. It's clearly-mapped, the whole system is
clean and airy, the information kiosks are nicely multi-lingual, and
the "buy the right ticket" navigation system is easy to use. It was
also fairly inexpensive[1].

London Underground has OK single-language kiosks, but it's a dirty
overcrowded horror otherwise - I'm *so* glad I only need to use it to
get from Liverpool St. to St.Pauls.

[1] only Berlin's underground was better, but I'm comparing a modern
recollection of Lyon with Berlin of 17 years ago.

 

No.

Said spaces were under the surveilance of several cameras
on the front of the shop. And each of the cars there was worth about
10 times the value of hers..

Phil

 

Yes.

Phil

 

Paul Corfield was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

They're fine(ish) for wheelchair access, but some of the stations
aren't that great if you're disabled, but not wheelchair-bound.

 

I dunno.. is it? I bow to your expertise on the subject.

Phil

 

atec77 wrote

Sometimes they need the back up and sometimes they don't.

Before my wife died we ended up with a disabled sticker on the cage and
did similar tricks to the ones described but she would never have needed
me in the event of trouble. Even in a wheelchair she was more than a
match for any muppet who cared to take her on.

 

Paul Corfield wrote

Bad news for you I know but the cripples I am working with at the moment
consider the whole of public transport a no go area. Even the so called
friendly bits are apparently only friendly in the eyes of the merchants
of PC spin.

 

Fair enough then.

 

Was your dad with your mum at the time?

 

Gravity. That makes it 50% disabled-friendly.

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I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer previously given.

Phil