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I don't understand this at all - are you saying we shouldn't overtake
cars on our side of the road with oncoming cars travelling in the
other direction?

*boggle*

 

Oh aye, that too, of course. In so far as it means the suspension
isn't having to do so much work in the first place. But in theory,
much better suspension _ought_ to be able to bring the 'feel' of the
heavier machine into the same ballpark.

 

I do believe that's exactly what he's saying. Too long without a bike
must be doing something to his sensible gland.

 

how fast is "speed"?

because I overtake with oncoming traffic all the time, both in town
and when I'm on country roads. I wouldn't do it if I didn't think the
bike was easily capable of accelerating past the car on my side and me
getting in front well before the car coming the other way reaches me,
but I still do it all the time.

 

I can see arguments that it's a bad thing. but mostly they depend
on the relative speeds and width of the road. Also, very few people
in cars are likely to suddenly swing right into a stream of traffic,
so "filtering" in this way has that in it's favour.

This argument is getting to a "here's a rule" thing, that
most of the time is okay, but in some circs is a bad thing.

 

OIC. Can I just say that that's not what I thought we were referring
to.

What _I_ used to do regularly, and still would if the occasion arose,
is overtake while there is a car coming the opposite way, such that
I'm between the two cars while they're passing each other.

And I still don't think it's 'wrong'.

 

There's always a risk.

Not faster, when you have a constant stream of oncoming traffic. Call
it filtering if you like, but there are many roads in the UK where you
could be in traffic moving at about 50mph, with virtually no gaps in
either direction. In these circumstances it's obviously going to be
quicker to pass a couple of dozen of them, with cars travelling the
opposite way too, than to sit behind them and wait for a gap.

You're talking about 'the open road', which might imply something
other than the scenario which I describe, in which case fair enough.
But I guarantee I'd beat you, probably by ten minutes or so, on a 0830
weekday trip from MK to Cambridge, if you insist on no such overtakes.

 

Maybe you thought so, but you're claiming that your 'method' is
quicker than Ben's, which I'm fairly sure he's only going to use when
overtaking gaps are limited, so presumably doesn't fit your use of
'open road'. Hence you're arguing about an entirely different
situation.

Wuss.

 

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

 

*bless*

 

It's what *I* was talking about.

 

It's the only conclusion I can draw. I often overtake 'down the
middle' (i.e. when the car I'm passing and the approaching car are
side by side), on purpose, because it is easier and safer than
accelerating to a speed such that I could be past the target car
before the approaching car arrived, and then slowing again. I also
reckon that when the two cars are alongside, they're pretty unlikely
to drive into each other.

 

It's what everyone, bar you, was talking about.

 

Damnit. Can't get the standard of security weasel these days.

 

Didn't someone else have this problem of work blocking usenet, and found
that ssh was the answer.

 

That sounds like an explanation of Quantum Physics. *impassive*

 

My theory is, no way had a 17 y/o police bike only done 48,000 KM I
reckoned even on light duties it must be 148,000 KM = 92,000 miles +
45,000 = 137,000.

 

Ahh, furry snuff. Not obvious (at least to me) though. Electronic
odometers don't tend to have such finite limits :-}

 

Me.

I set up an ssh server at home and used some tunneling software to
tunnel port 119 on the client machine (i.e., the one at work blocked
by the firewall) to port 119 on the remote machine (hosting the ssh
server) through port 23 which is the ssh port.

Obviously this doesn't work if work block port 22. Which mine did so
I changed my ssh server to work on port 23 which is telnet and
generally left open outgoing. You could even put it on port 80 (which
is pretty much always left open outgoing) if you don't run a webserver
at the remote location.