Anyone BOTAFOT yesterday

Imagine how easy it is with even more mass, and even bigger bars.

Trouble is, on the Wing, you're dragging a shade of front, too, but
they're so shit, the bike doesn't tend to notice.

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| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C/exTS185C
_/_____\_ ..57146../..13615.../..3157./.19406/.fecked.
|_\_____/_| IMC#4 TPPFATUICG#7 YTC#4 DIAABTCOD#9 PM#5
(>|_|_|<) BOTAFOT #70 two#11 Ignoramus #0001
|__|_|__| BOTAFOF #09 IbW#0 & KotIbW# OSOS#07
\ |^| / WG* BotTOS #6 GP#4 ANORAK#17
\|^|/ 2003 RBR landmarks:81 points:1740 miles:6835
'^'

 

I have been known to when in more liberal countries ;-)

Probably closer to 110-120mph in reality.

 

You need to stand downwind of it, mate. It smells *gorgeous*, of oil
and metal and rubber all combined into an olfactory assault that says
"real bike".

 

Heh. No way. The fastest I *ever* saw out of mine, coming down the Creg
on the IOM, was an indicated 120+. but the whole thing was bouncing and
vibrating so much it could have been 20mph.

Bike trapped it at 114. The fairing really slowed it down, apparently.

 

Ah, right. So when you're an old fucker like me, it's natural.

 

<TOGbait>
Between 18 and 24 I hardly ever used any 2 wheeled transport at all,
then I did DAS and got a bike licence.
</TOGbait>

Maybe that has a bearing on my ineptness too.

 

Teddybears.

 

Heh.

*ding*

I think ;-)

Certainly gives me more confidence when I'm going in towards the limits
of what I feel comfortable with.

 

I'm sure I did, but you still didn't see anything *like* this quantity
of "How do I ride better?" stuff.

Either it wasn't a problem or (more likely) we didn't recognise it as
such.

Probably too busy trying to handle crap Japanese frames, tyres, and
brakes that didn't work in the wet.

 

On a more modern tack, but incredibly horny:
http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/44/1/887/Original

Further on the same tack:
http://www.ghezzi-brian.com/English/Galleria_Immagini/index_ing.htm

 

And there wasn't the Internet...

 

That was *the* roar of the day.....

....to use a Blackadder quote,

She was "..thicker than a whale omelette"

 

Andy Bonwick said:

As one who does teach how, I look on it as creating a monster. But it's
my monster.

 

Indeed - I would say a back protector may have helped, but it wouldnt' have
stopped him being injured.

He got run over... somewhat worse then just falling off.

 

Heh - I almost rammed him twice as I thought he'd finished braking and was
winding on.

He wasn't.

Hence my comments

 

I used to do this a fair bit on the Trumpet - much less so on the
gixxer. Never quite worked out _exactly_ what was going on but there
were at least two things that I could identify:

1. When not confident about how much speed to carry in to a corner,
dragging a bit of rear (and varying how much) can allow a bit of extra
retardation without too much "sitting-up", which you'd get with the
front.

2. The poise of the bike was much more predictable and much less prone
to getting out-of-shape when encountering mid-corner bumps.

I've noticed that the gixxer has _much_ less of a tendency to either
of these - i.e. I can use front brake in a corner much more
predictably and it doesn't start to get that unstable weave/wobble on
poor surfaces - so I don't do it any more. Except when I forget.

Both of these I'd put down to far superior suspension which basically
makes the gixxer inherently more stable at speeds that may have had
the Triumph at its limit.

 

I was going to post something very similar...

 

I used to do it past a dozen cars or more at a time on my MK-Cambridge
commute a few years back. Prolly passed a couple of hundred like that
every day in total. With hard panniers on the Trumpet an' all.

TBF some of the road did have a nice bike lane [1][2] in the middle,
but I didn't limit such behaviour to there. And I still don't think I
was doing anything 'wrong'. In fact, I've done the same on the gixxer
a few times, although it's not strictly necessary on the roads round
here.


[1] Solid lined x-hatching about three feet across
[2] Full of road shit, mind, so not recommended for max braking.

 

I'm still trying to understand what you mean by this...

bad ascii art:

------
| CarA | -->
------
RiderA
------
<-- | CarB |
------

(doesn't really matter which way RiderA is going...)

Is that what you mean?

*ding*

 

Wrong is good.