Anybody got a clever idea?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Timo Geusch, Nov 25, 2003.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Pip Guest

    I had to take some of my own advice when I wanted to remove the Rat
    reservoir screws. Take a small, _sharp_ cold chisel to the very edge
    of the screw - having checked at least twice that you are going
    anti-clockwise. Tap down persistently with a medium hammer until the
    chisel bites, then lower the end of the chisel while keeping the
    cutting edge well into the locating curl of cheeselike metal of the
    screwhead.

    Then it's just a matter of patience and persistence, tapping
    reasonably gently, pressing down all the while so the chisel doesn't
    get too much chance to cut, but transfers the shock of the tapping
    through to the screw. Took me about ten minutes a screw.

    Copaslip and re-use if you're a pikey like me, or replace with decent
    screws if you want to do it properly.
    They don't fall _that_ far, do they? Sort of take on a heavy list,
    supported by the pannier, so to speak. Just need an enthusiastic
    leaning on to return to uprightness.

    OTOH, this is you, Timo. So it went flat down, no doubt. Backing up
    to heavy bikes, innit. Grab with hands behind your hips, get a good
    hold and lean backwards, straightening your legs.
     
    Pip, Nov 28, 2003
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  2. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    NigelAtWork was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Will do, ta.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 28, 2003
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  3. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    PanMan was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Didn't work after a 14-hour day, that...
    Nobody said it would be easy ;-)
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 28, 2003
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  4. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Pip was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    In my hands that sounds like a recipe for a new cover TBH. I'm
    beginning to like the "visit the Eaton workshop" alternative...
    That'll be new screws and Copaslip for me, because they'll be more or
    less unusable as they are.
    Aye, it was carefully lowered onto its paddle[1]. It didn't even fall, I
    carefully lowered it as I just couldn't hold it upright...
    Well, enthusiastic didn't quite describe me at that time...
    That was the plan. Time to go to the gym again. Need to do that to
    prevent myself from turning into the cliched pot-bellied middle aged
    biker anyway.

    [1] The rubber covered crashbar thingy.
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 28, 2003
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  5. Timo Geusch

    sweller Guest

    Not neccessarily. I have used that method with some success in the past.
    I have a small, very sharp chisel for that purpose. It can also be
    achieved with a sharp centre punch.

    You'll also be surprised what effect a good penetrating oil has if left
    overnight.
    Only the smallest of smears of copaslip mind....
     
    sweller, Nov 28, 2003
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  6. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    I reckon it's all in the method. I've never had a problem picking up
    any bike I've dropped. Mind you, I've not dropped anything larger than
    a K100.

    Pretty certain I could put any (production) bike every built onto its
    wheels again though.

    Grip something substantial like a frame rail and the handlebar on the
    side of the bike that's down. Brace your back and using your legs lift
    the fucking thing, rest it on your knees. Adjust your grip and push
    upright.

    Swearing a lot helps. As does an audience. Telling the audience to
    "**** off" generally doesn't help if they've just come out of a night
    club 'cos some fucker is likely to smack you. Not that this ever
    happened to me (he was pissed and I managed to move before he
    connected).
     
    deadmail, Nov 28, 2003
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  7. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    What do you recommend? I like plus gas and don't rate WD40 much.
     
    deadmail, Nov 28, 2003
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  8. I was over zealous with the Copaslip on the handle bar clamp bolts and
    although they were torqued up correctly -------- one came undone. Took
    them out cleaned them up and put them back in with lock tight.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 28, 2003
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  9. Timo Geusch

    sweller Guest

    The main problem, other than its a waste, is it increases the loading on
    the threads and increases the chances of it shearing or stripping.

    Critical stuff should just be degreased and put in dry.
     
    sweller, Nov 28, 2003
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  10. Timo Geusch

    sweller Guest

    I rate plus gas but I'm still getting through a large tin of "Rusty
    Nuts". Really any of the graphite enriched oils. The black fluids.

    I have an aerosol of Loctite 8018, which is the daddy for rusty
    fasteners. Can't remember where I got it from.

    Duck oil for general degreasing, water dispersal; WD40 type jobs.
     
    sweller, Nov 28, 2003
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  11. Timo Geusch

    Lozzo Guest

    said....
    You have to admit though, there's not many bikes larger than a K100

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    Lozzo, Nov 28, 2003
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  12. Timo Geusch

    deadmail Guest

    Oh, there's a few. Goldwing, K1200, Suzuki Cavalcade and a number of
    Harleys. But... I reckon I could do any of that lot and, yes, I have
    been drinking.
     
    deadmail, Nov 28, 2003
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  13. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    sweller was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    IANAC[1] but I've come across this, too. Something to do with the fact
    that the metal is "more precious" than normal steel - the bigger the
    differences in electrical potential between the two, the higher the
    risk of corrosion.
    Actually, CopaSlip isn't that great either long term in this
    application due to the copper in it. There are other 'greases' with
    similar properties that appearantly don't suffer from this problem -
    AFAIK the BMW spline lube stuff (Optimol or somesuch) is better for
    bolts you don't intend to undo for a long time.

    [1] I Am Not A Chemist
     
    Timo Geusch, Nov 29, 2003
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