Any Labour Party supporters?

There is a difference between dissent and reasoned debate.

The former creates a situation where the government is perceived to be
not in control. The electorate expects the government to be in control
and the opposition to oppose. Electorates have a nasty habit of severely
punishing those parties who become pale imitations of ramshackle student
debating societies - the names Michael Foot, John Major, William Hague,
Ian Duncan Smith ring any bells?

The latter is a perfectly healthy activity provided people accept that
there comes a time for a decision and under democratic principles the
majority position prevails.

 

Er, making a complete and utter **** of yourself is not Statesmanship
(tm)Churchhill

Don't feed the Troll )

 

Well put

 

Hog wrote

Cheeky ****.

 

ITYF that come decision time, the PM's position prevails, until
resignation time comes around.

 

The worst thing I ever heard Harold Wilson say was "The job of the
opposition is to oppose!" No! The electorate expects their elected
representatives to be an active part of government. It is the gutter
press and their ruling barons who gull the gullible into seeing the
sides of the House as black and white. There are always shades of
opinion within any party, and overlapping wings, but your "opposition to
oppose" tenet means MPs must never express these feelings, they must
always toe the party line.

Exactly. If the majority in parliament votes down a motion put by the
ruling party, that is the wish of the people, through their elected
representatives, and parliament should act on that decision.

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So is mine. He was a Commie then Labour.

 

Mine's not

 

Champ said...

Mine is too

 

petrolcan wrote

My son's is.

 

Heh, he's not a twat either (1)

(1)He's a ****

 

So I've heard

 

Heh. AOL to that. maybe we should start a MDABOAT list...

 

I bet that Just like Tony, all you rebel sons [1] end up being [2] more
like your dad than you'd like to admit to yourself.

<Leo Kottke>

"Every day in the morning when you get up and you crawl out of bed
You look in the mirror and it's your fathers face
With the thin grin, with the thin grin, with the thin grin..."

</LK> [3]

[1] (And I'm one of course
[2] (or are already!)
[3] (Mudlark 1971 was his finest album IMHO)

 

One of mine was a twat the other two were OK though.

 

Well, the advantage of my particular personal situation is that if I
do turn into my dad, I won't really know.

 

I will, cos I'll suddenly find myself embedded in a car windscreen and
it's a bit of a giveaway.

 

ogden <> spouted the following in @pre.org:

I was referring to personality traits, no offence intended.

 

tallbloke wrote

Please god no. Mine has got a hooter that betrays his east end roots
long before you get to hear the cockney twang. Like a miniature Salad
Dodger with blackheads stuck on the front to his face it is.

 

Ginge is your dad?

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